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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Cool Panther G (?) YouTube Germany vids
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 03:45 AM UTC
A perfectly-restored Panther G in action (there are three vids if you click through that link).

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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 04:07 AM UTC
Thanks Bill! that was awsome to see!

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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 04:31 AM UTC
Pretty cool Bill I guess they are not allowed to have ammo for a live fire demonstration
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 04:34 AM UTC
Sal, they don't even have an MG34 in the front glacis. And given the way the Germans disabled the gun (draining the oil from the recuperator and then firing the weapon), it's hard to say if the 88 in the turret could fire even a blank. Perhaps someone with more information, though, can weigh in.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 04:48 AM UTC
Cool video. In watching you can see why they didn't fire on the move. The way the barrel was shimmy'ing all over the place, it would be really hard to hit something!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 04:57 AM UTC
Very Cool.
Thanks for posting,

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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 05:00 AM UTC
Firing on the move over uneven ground requires a gyroscopic control system like in the M1A1 Abrams. They can keep the barrel perfectly level while going over all sorts of obstacles.

But we shouldn't get too hard on them. Look at what the war began with:



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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 05:22 AM UTC
Bill,

You are very right, the amount of advancement in tanks during the war was pretty amazing. And from things I have read, it does seem the Panther was (in many cases) thought of being the best 'all-round' tank in WWII.

My comment about firing on the move was not meant as a slight, more of a 'wow, I can see why now' kind of thing. High resolution and color give new very interesting perspectives on things that we in the past usually only saw in grainy black and white!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 06:13 AM UTC
You're right in all you say, John, though I think the Russians would give you an argument about the T-34, LOL.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 09:40 AM UTC

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Sal, they don't even have an MG34 in the front glacis. And given the way the Germans disabled the gun (draining the oil from the recuperator and then firing the weapon), it's hard to say if the 88 in the turret could fire even a blank. Perhaps someone with more information, though, can weigh in.



And I'm pretty sure that's a 75 in the turret of the Panther.

But cool videos though!









~ Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 10:04 AM UTC
Cool video. Incredible how much smoke comes out the exhaust. If that's true to the original, I imagine it would be hard to sneak up on anyone.

Happy Modelling, -zon
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 10:26 AM UTC
jeff your right, it's a 75 mike mike
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 11:28 AM UTC
i read somewhere that this panther is not running on an original maybach petrol engine but a modern diesel engine
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 01:13 PM UTC

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maybach



Maybach is that anything like the Maibock Beer, Its 1 of my favorites
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 02:35 PM UTC
A diesel engine in a Panther? It would not be a surprise. Sounds like what they did out in Texas when they manufacured those five new Me-262s. See www.stormbirds.com
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - 03:02 AM UTC
Hello all!
It is Ausf.G version, but since it is covered with zimmerit, it should have earlier stile exhausts (without flame suppressors).The main gun is 75 mm,and yes,there is a Panther, Ausf.A version, with an MTU Diesel which sounds differently when on the move.So far, the most accurately restored vehicle is Panther Ausf.A from Jacques Littlefield Collection.It looks like new!
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - 03:51 AM UTC
It belongs to Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung in Koblenz, which - as far as I know - is part of the Bundewehr - and as such I see no reason why the gun should not be fully functional.

Doesn“t sound like a diesel to me.

Imaging being allowed to drive it ..... oh my...

Cheers/Jan
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - 05:03 AM UTC
Hmm! I'm not sure, but diesels can produce this high pitch engine sound. Anyone ever heard a M113? These babies can really scream, when driven hard in the lower gears. Also, does a petrol engine generate that much smoke? A once drove a Leopard 1, which made a pretty good smokescreen, when given full throttle...Well, might have something to do with the fuel pump being tampered with But anyway, a really cool movieclip, thanks Bill, and yes, to get to drive one of these kitties would be just sweet.
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 01:05 AM UTC

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A diesel engine in a Panther? It would not be a surprise. Sounds like what they did out in Texas when they manufacured those five new Me-262s. See www.stormbirds.com


Not sure your meaning, but IIRC the 262 used diesel oil and not aviation gasoline.
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 08:23 AM UTC
Munster (the german equivalent to Bovington or Saumur) has a Panther with a diesel engine. Depending on the source either the engine of a Marder IFV (600HP) or the Leopard 1 unit (830HP).

The Koblenz Panther seen here after an overhaul at WT41 like it's Sister Ute (The Jagdpanther) still has the original Maybach unit HL230.

During that show the Panther and the early model Leopard 1 (seen in the background) came standing close to each other. Talk about relatives

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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 08:49 AM UTC
Talk about good timing,I'm finishing up a build for the Panther campaign with a Jagdpanther.All three vids are impressive,but since I just built one,the Jag vid was very cool to see I find it interesting to see just how much the tracks flop around.Jeff T.
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 08:56 AM UTC
That is just super cool!!!

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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 10:34 AM UTC
As for a Jagdpanter (234/Ute again btw):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCCCKiQWMRM

And now imagine yourself in a Sherman...
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