Here's a small vignette of old Tamiya's Horch and a Italeri Flak with a Jordi Rubio barrel. Figures are dragon. Still in need of some extra stowage. Any criticism is welcomed..=)
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1/35 Horch + Flak 38
mimeda
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Posted: Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 05:34 AM UTC
panzerbob01
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Posted: Monday, April 30, 2012 - 02:30 AM UTC
It's the ever-popular Horch and Flak 38!
Nice dio and very interesting!
I did one of these things a couple years ago using the Tamiya Horch with a Tamiya Flak 38 and a bunch of scratch work - loads of fun! It's always very interesting to me to see how folks interpret this somehow "classical" field-mod combo. There have been a range of "gun-deck"types done (wood, like both you and I have done, steel plates, larger and smaller areas, sunken down into the hull - again like you and I have done -, set up on the top, etc.) and a couple of different gun-positions used.... you have elected that arrangement with the "single" arm positioned forward and between the front seat-backs, whereas I went a different route.
I generally associate these conversions with the DAK and the Italian campaign, though there is some suggestion that they were seen here, there and maybe about anywhere the Horch and gun showed up - which would be about any front the Germans found themselves in! Your's is the first build I've run across a build depicting what looks to be an earlier-war Euro-setting with an all-dunkelgrau specimen - not that I have seen every Horch/Flak posted... if nothing else, you have carved a somewhat different niche for yours!
You didn't mention whether you used any PE or such - evidently you did swap in a metal barrel (though I would guess that the JR barrel was intended for a Flak 30? It looks to be for that gun, based on what its muzzle-brake looks like. The Flak 38 barrel has/had a conical flash-hider.) - and there look to be a few non-Tamiya bits here and there!
What did you use for your gun-deck? Looks almost like a ship's deck or maybe some sort of siding panel?
In terms of critique; aside from the wrong-looking gun barrel, and the more stowage you mentioned, I suggest dirtying-up the deck and truck some - they look a bit too clean to me - the more so as your trailer is a bit dirtier! Simply brush on some dry chalk dust or pigments and it could get dirty fast! A more difficult fix would be to add on the framed-net shell-basket typically seen on Flak 38 (but us modelers love a challenge, right?!).
By me, the Tamiya Horch is a classic and I found it fun to trick out a little. Hope you found yours was fun, too - it looks like it should have been!
Here is a deck-shot of my effort to compare similar approach on the wood deck, different gun setting - note the barrel (RB Flak 38 L/65) and the shell-net (scratched from sprue and bridal veil material - a little tedious...!).
So... Welcome to the Horch flak-truck "club"! Nice job, Pard!
Bob
Nice dio and very interesting!
I did one of these things a couple years ago using the Tamiya Horch with a Tamiya Flak 38 and a bunch of scratch work - loads of fun! It's always very interesting to me to see how folks interpret this somehow "classical" field-mod combo. There have been a range of "gun-deck"types done (wood, like both you and I have done, steel plates, larger and smaller areas, sunken down into the hull - again like you and I have done -, set up on the top, etc.) and a couple of different gun-positions used.... you have elected that arrangement with the "single" arm positioned forward and between the front seat-backs, whereas I went a different route.
I generally associate these conversions with the DAK and the Italian campaign, though there is some suggestion that they were seen here, there and maybe about anywhere the Horch and gun showed up - which would be about any front the Germans found themselves in! Your's is the first build I've run across a build depicting what looks to be an earlier-war Euro-setting with an all-dunkelgrau specimen - not that I have seen every Horch/Flak posted... if nothing else, you have carved a somewhat different niche for yours!
You didn't mention whether you used any PE or such - evidently you did swap in a metal barrel (though I would guess that the JR barrel was intended for a Flak 30? It looks to be for that gun, based on what its muzzle-brake looks like. The Flak 38 barrel has/had a conical flash-hider.) - and there look to be a few non-Tamiya bits here and there!
What did you use for your gun-deck? Looks almost like a ship's deck or maybe some sort of siding panel?
In terms of critique; aside from the wrong-looking gun barrel, and the more stowage you mentioned, I suggest dirtying-up the deck and truck some - they look a bit too clean to me - the more so as your trailer is a bit dirtier! Simply brush on some dry chalk dust or pigments and it could get dirty fast! A more difficult fix would be to add on the framed-net shell-basket typically seen on Flak 38 (but us modelers love a challenge, right?!).
By me, the Tamiya Horch is a classic and I found it fun to trick out a little. Hope you found yours was fun, too - it looks like it should have been!
Here is a deck-shot of my effort to compare similar approach on the wood deck, different gun setting - note the barrel (RB Flak 38 L/65) and the shell-net (scratched from sprue and bridal veil material - a little tedious...!).
So... Welcome to the Horch flak-truck "club"! Nice job, Pard!
Bob
mimeda
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 06:19 AM UTC
Wow! Thanks a lot for the feedback. Yes I agree there is still some work to be done particularly with weathering. That should be coming soon, usually I wait until I don't plan to add anything else to the vignette to avoid fingerprints..
I did not use any aftermarket PE, everything is pretty much scratched (rifle supports, light supports, etc.
I do realize the gun barrel is a 2 cm Flak 30, I had it on stock and funny thing, when you look at some references and even on the back of the barrel, on eof the pictures depicts the horch with the flak 30? In any case, some artistic creativity played a role...=)
As far as camo, yes the limited pictures available depict Afrikakorps vehicles but a few show german grey vehicles...so I thought to myself...why not?
Thanks again, I'll post soem pregoress soon.
I did not use any aftermarket PE, everything is pretty much scratched (rifle supports, light supports, etc.
I do realize the gun barrel is a 2 cm Flak 30, I had it on stock and funny thing, when you look at some references and even on the back of the barrel, on eof the pictures depicts the horch with the flak 30? In any case, some artistic creativity played a role...=)
As far as camo, yes the limited pictures available depict Afrikakorps vehicles but a few show german grey vehicles...so I thought to myself...why not?
Thanks again, I'll post soem pregoress soon.
panzerbob01
Louisiana, United States
Joined: March 06, 2010
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 02:06 PM UTC
I'll be watching for the progress!
Actually, there are many pics showing the Horch carrying the Flak 30 gun - in fact, this Flak 30 was the more-common German 2cm gun in north Africa...
I had waited for about 35 years with my Tamiya Horch and Flak 38 kits just sitting on the shelf - I was hoping to see a better Flak 30 kit come out to replace that old Esci thing so I could build a Horch w/ Flak 30 on it! So, I broke down 2 years back and started the Horch with the -38 I had, figuring I might just die waiting for a new Flak 30... It came out from CyberHobby after my Horch was done
But I have another Horch in the stash, and maybe the big D will bring out a complete Flak 30 kit seeing as they have now released a SdKfz 10/4 with Flak 30 on board... And when this new -30 kit comes out, I'll be building another gun truck!
Meanwhile, make and post some progress!
Bob
Actually, there are many pics showing the Horch carrying the Flak 30 gun - in fact, this Flak 30 was the more-common German 2cm gun in north Africa...
I had waited for about 35 years with my Tamiya Horch and Flak 38 kits just sitting on the shelf - I was hoping to see a better Flak 30 kit come out to replace that old Esci thing so I could build a Horch w/ Flak 30 on it! So, I broke down 2 years back and started the Horch with the -38 I had, figuring I might just die waiting for a new Flak 30... It came out from CyberHobby after my Horch was done
But I have another Horch in the stash, and maybe the big D will bring out a complete Flak 30 kit seeing as they have now released a SdKfz 10/4 with Flak 30 on board... And when this new -30 kit comes out, I'll be building another gun truck!
Meanwhile, make and post some progress!
Bob