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Dioramas: Water Effects
Water! A sometimes intimidating effect.
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kenely
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2012 - 01:40 AM UTC
THE BEST WATER EFFECT EVER....
I really enjoy every moment of it see you, step by step finishing it.
GREAT JOB.....CHEERS
Jenseits
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2012 - 07:29 AM UTC
Thanks Andrezj! First the modd then the actual idea

Thank you Karl for your constant support! I wanted her to be as perfect as possible indeed. I don't know if I wrote this before, but as such a powerful sorceress, why would she had to look like an ugly old lady?

Hey thank you Claude! I will answer you about the light in the same way I answered another friend elsewhere because indeed that's a tricky one :
Last year I was at SMC Eindhoven and was privileged enough to talk a few minutes with Marijn Van Gills in front of a Coke can. Then one hour later I saw him unplug and undo his "schh" diorama (you know the one in a box with a girl on a bed) to show how it worked to a common friend.
That one made a tilt to me, I realized that the only flaw I could see in MVG's work was that *it needed an external source of light controlled by its creator in order to work completely*.
Well this works against one of my motos: a diorama must come with its own light within and must not rely on anything else than itself. That is no battery, nothing.
So yes your idea is quite good, but when I am going to show this diorama at shows the light that will pour from under the water will be the light of the show -as rotten as those probably will be
I really want the people to see my stuff with their own eyes under so many different conditions that in the end, everybody will see something unique

Thanks Kenny!
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2012 - 07:39 AM UTC

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Thanks AndrezjI don't know if I wrote this before, but as such a powerful sorceress, why would she had to look like an ugly old lady?


Camouflage? Make everyone see you as an old crone when they're dealing with you as the powerful sorceress, then when the witch hunts come, they're looking for old crones, not the young, beautiful woman married to the wealthy landowner (or his widow, he having died in an unfortunate accident shortly after the marriage).
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2012 - 08:55 AM UTC
Why should witches be ugly and old? In my opinion if the witch had been older, the scene would have been less interesting and maybe a bit banal.

I really like the contrast between the female figure which looks like an inoffensive and attractive fairy and the spooky pond. I notice that you've used pastel colours for the witch clothes and very dark tints for the rest of the scene. I think that's a great choice

A stunning amazing incredible job...as usual
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2012 - 11:59 AM UTC
Het Nicolas, after 3 1/2 days with no electric service I was withdrawing from armorama for something really good here. So there I was scroling down latest post and saw yours again but, this time completed. What a welcome back and to see this one done. Outstanding! As Cluade said, you beat yourself here. This is one wonderful piece of artwork my friend. No doubt, my favorite one to date. Even my wife is amazed with your work. And that is something.
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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2012 - 06:43 PM UTC

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Hey thank you Claude! I will answer you about the light in the same way I answered another friend elsewhere because indeed that's a tricky one :
Last year I was at SMC Eindhoven and was privileged enough to talk a few minutes with Marijn Van Gills in front of a Coke can. Then one hour later I saw him unplug and undo his "schh" diorama (you know the one in a box with a girl on a bed) to show how it worked to a common friend.
That one made a tilt to me, I realized that the only flaw I could see in MVG's work was that *it needed an external source of light controlled by its creator in order to work completely*.
Well this works against one of my motos: a diorama must come with its own light within and must not rely on anything else than itself. That is no battery, nothing.
So yes your idea is quite good, but when I am going to show this diorama at shows the light that will pour from under the water will be the light of the show -as rotten as those probably will be



Point taken of course.

As a compromise between these ideas you could point a spot light (with a very small lighting spot, yousee) from a certain distance (perhaps the border of the panel you will put your dio on) and let it light from far under the dio

Cheers

Claude
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 10:55 PM UTC
yep Sean, great camouflage you will reckon

Mauro, it's all a question of clichés -and I don't like them. So she is this kind of young lady - I actually made a portrait of one of my friends on facebook, an eastern European girl, but me not being that good with portraits it turned into something for Adams family like. And then I always was fed up with the way model making treats women in general, you know, machismo situations, big breasts and the like. So I did a bit the opposite
Thanks for the compliments! Indeed she had to look pure contrary to her surroundings

Thank you Bob friend! I also consider this to be my best -well baba is certainly my best sculpting so far!

This is a very good idea Claude and thanks for pointing it to me!
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 11:33 PM UTC

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Mauro, it's all a question of clichés -and I don't like them



I've noticed and that's another reason why I really like your jobs
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Posted: Thursday, July 05, 2012 - 09:36 AM UTC
Nicolas: a truely beautiful and well done piece!!

Regarding the lighting, have you considered mounting it over a box of water, like an aquarium, several centimeters, or more high? This might help collect the light better than simply raising the dio off the table on legs. Anyway, just a thought.

Happy Modeling, -zon
dioman13
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Posted: Thursday, July 05, 2012 - 02:02 PM UTC
Hey Nicolas, as far as your light situatuion goes, an idea for you. P/U four of the corner mount legs (lion paws) they use for jewlery and music boxes. Attatch to the corners and mount on a piece of mirror. Should catch and reflect enough light through the water, be self contained, and rely on no external power source other than the surrounding light.
Jenseits
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Posted: Friday, July 06, 2012 - 04:06 AM UTC
Thanks for this Mauro. Unfortunately clichés are fashionable

Zontar your idea is quite neat! As the water is see through, moving it a bit would produce some interesting visual effects viewed from the top! I should try and film that -thanks for the suggestion!

Now that's another excellent suggestion Bob! Indeed using such a mirror could enhance the light amount..

ah well, more to think.. thanks for the suggestions friends!
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Posted: Saturday, July 07, 2012 - 10:37 PM UTC
bello and unique
Jenseits
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Posted: Saturday, July 07, 2012 - 11:29 PM UTC
Thanks Augusto!
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