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LKw leicht gl Wolf used in Afghanistan?
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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 07:04 AM UTC
Was any version of the German-designed Wolf deployed in Afghanistan?
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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 08:45 AM UTC
Several countries, including Germany, Norway, Denmark, and The Netherlands, use/used the Wolf in Afghanistan, in both LWB and SWB variants :

German SWB :



Norwegian LWB :



Danish LWB :



A simple Google image search should yield more pics...

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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 09:53 AM UTC
Thanks Frenchy. I did a Google image search, but none of the photos were listed as being in Afghanistan.
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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 12:08 PM UTC
Well I was going to chime in and say yes.... but you must've gotten Frenchy's spidey-senses to start tingling lol!

Revell's 1/35 kit should have decals depicting a vehicle serving in Afghanistan.
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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 01:19 PM UTC
Thanks Jeremy. I'll be building this one for a campaign with the final result being depicted as on Tamiya's 2A6.
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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 08:51 PM UTC
So, was the Leopard 2A6 used in Afghanistan? I know that German forces were present, but I'm not sure if they fielded their mbt.
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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 09:53 PM UTC
Hi Matt,

definitly a NO to Leopard 2`s in Afghanistan. The German government still considers AFG a Peacekeeping/Stabilisating operation. While the soldiers desperatly wish for some heavy firepower, the heaviest vehicles down there are the Marder 1 A5 and the GTK Boxer. While we retired the Flakpanzer Gepard a while ago, some soldiers demanded that we should use the 35 mm guns for fire support, similar to the Russian BMPT. Maybe this could be a subject for a What-if-model.
As for the Wolf truck, yes their are a lot of them in AFG. While we started with then basic unarmored 250 GD model, most of the patrol vehicles are up-armored now. As for camo, you can standard NATOflage, modified NATOflage with with the green replaced by sand and Umtarnfarben desert camo.

HTH
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Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 10:21 PM UTC
That's what I thought. Thanks for the tips on the camo and uparmoring the Wolf. I'll have to see if I can find some references of one uparmored.
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 03:55 AM UTC
Black Dog have a good AM set for the Revell Wolf. See a build here

It would be nice if Revell released a LWB version....
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 04:13 AM UTC
Hi Matt,

if you search for an up-armored Wolf, go for Lkw Wolf mit Spezial-Schutzausstattung SSA or Sonderschutzausstattung. But note that all up-armored Wölfe have a hardtop. Tha latest armored version of the Wolf is the LAPV ENOK 2. It is all around armorplated with a mine protection.

Cheers
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 09:57 AM UTC
Are there any modern German driver figures available?
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 06:09 PM UTC
Check out Dolp white metal figures :

http://www.dolp-modellbau.de/shop-zinnfiguren-bundeswehr-bundeswehr-1-35-bw-figuren-c-1_35_140_67.html?page=2&sort=2a

Afghanistan head sets and weapons :

http://www.dolp-modellbau.de/shop-zinnfiguren-bundeswehr-bundeswehr-1-35-bw-figuren-zubehoer-c-1_35_140_68.html?page=2&sort=2a

HTH

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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 08:15 PM UTC
Thanks Frenchy.
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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 - 01:41 PM UTC
Matt I have more than 80 pictures of this vehicle that I have found on several websites.

If you are interested, give me your e-mail address.

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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 - 02:51 AM UTC

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So, was the Leopard 2A6 used in Afghanistan?


No for the Bundeswehr, yes for the Canadian Armed Forces.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 - 01:49 PM UTC
I was away for a while and I'm scratching my head why till now this excellent reference wasn't mentioned:
http://www.tankograd.com/cms/website.php?id=/en/index/publikationen/missions_and_manoeuvres/GECON-ISAF.htm
(preview pages on the bottom)
Many Wolves in it: normal and air portable, uparmoured or not, some with really interesting cargo bodies (probably DIY), others with interesting different DIY wire cutters, some towing special trailers with 6 service dogs, PsyOps ones with loudspeakers, white Military Police vehicles and red ones of the firefighters, etc.
HTH
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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 - 02:18 PM UTC

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Thanks Frenchy. I did a Google image search, but none of the photos were listed as being in Afghanistan.

those pics are deffanitly afghanistan and as to youtr other question the canadians did send thier leopard 2s over there
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 - 08:05 PM UTC
Here pics from several websites:
http://www.hostingpics.net/album/alex54850-99294.html
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Posted: Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 01:24 PM UTC
Thanks for all of the references. I will start it, as soon as Nationals are over.
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