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KV-5 - the tank of which wasn't.
Dmitry100
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 08:37 AM UTC
Hello.

I not so well speak English and I ask you me to excuse.

I long time built models on the scale of 1/35. Approximately a year ago tried to make model on the scale of 1/48. Now it is my favourite scale.

I would like to show you the model of the KV-5 tank.
This tank was developed in 1941, but wasn't constructed.It shall be the huge tank. Booking - 170 mm. A gun - 107 mm.





Due to the Second World War beginning, the KV-5 project stopped.

Tank case:









Dmitry100
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 08:48 AM UTC
Turret:









I took fine details from the KV-1 model (Hobby Boss).



Dmitry100
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:27 AM UTC
Turrets of the driver mechanic and shooter:













Tanksami
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:38 AM UTC
Hi Dmitry,

Wow this is going to look fantastic!!! What were the round brown things you used to make the little mg turret & drivers station. I have seen photos also of the kv 7 & kv 8 & this will look just as cool. Will keep watching

Mike
Dmitry100
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:41 AM UTC
Hello, Mike.

Brown material - polymeric pitch. I made details on the lathe

I continue to do turret:



















vanize
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:59 AM UTC
wow - that is impressive work! keep us updated.
PantherF
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 10:16 AM UTC
Outstanding work and precise detail!

Thanks for showing your model.









~ Jeff
Tanksami
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:39 AM UTC
Dmitry,

I have never heard of polymeric pitch, but man this is looking really impressive, love the detail work your doing.

Mike
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 01:38 PM UTC
What a fabulous steel beast you are building, Dmitry. I look forward to following your project to its completion.

I had no clue there had ever been a KV-5, even on paper. Makes you wonder what other non-Third Reich "paper panzers" remain to be discovered ... and modeled!
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 05:42 PM UTC
Impressive job Dmitry!

Thanks for sharing, there are lots of inspirations useful for scratchbuilding projects!
GregCloseCombat
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 06:14 PM UTC
This is VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!!




The detail is so good top and bottom


Awesome tank choice
jkb_sprint
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 06:31 PM UTC
That's just great work!
Dmitry100
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:13 PM UTC
Colleagues, thanks for your responses.

Russian engineers before the Second World War offered some projects of superheavy tanks: SMK, T-100, KV-4. These tanks should replace the heavy T-35.

SMK:



T-100:



SMK, T-100 participated in war in Finland in 1940. This experiment showed unfitness of these tanks.

A lot of work was done according to the KV-4 project. More than 20 options of the heavy tank were offered.
Here some projects:











All these projects weren't realized.
The new project - KV-5 was begun.
But also this project wasn't finished - there are only drawings.

Command of Red Army chose more real project - KV-1.

Certainly, the projects KV-4 and KV-5, SMK and T-100 - didn't suit modern war.

But these tanks are so beautiful!

I plan to construct still KV-4 and SMK.

Ushchu I plan German experimental heavy tanks: VK4502A, VK4502B and T-VII "Lowe".


Tanksami
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:25 PM UTC
Hi Dmitry,

Some very interesting propsal's, properly lucky for both the the Soviets & the german's that these weren't built, lucky for the soviets as the KV1, was better, easier to build & much more manouverable. and for the Germans as how the hell would they have knocked them out?? Maybe 40 panzer 1's to one

Mike
Dmitry100
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:31 PM UTC
I come back to KV-5. I do the chassis:

















It is a result of two months of work:





I will be glad to your responses.

I will continue.
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:50 PM UTC
Awesome!

Are you sure that any company is interested to buy your master?

It would be possible also to get a resin kit from it!

Congrats indeed, stunning job
Peelou75
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:58 PM UTC
Dmitry,

It is a fantastic build. Is it really 1/48 size? Absoultely stunning details. It would be great to hear more about your techniques, as it is really inspirational. Maybe some photos of the tools and materials you using?
Matt182
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 12:39 AM UTC
Wow, your build is fantastic. The fact you have scratch built almost the entire tank is impressive enough, let alone the amount of detail you have crammed in. And it's 1/48 too! Keep the updates coming!
Dmitry100
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 02:40 AM UTC
Thanks for the positive assessment of my operation.

Matt,

I will show materials and tools which I use.

Materials:









Tools:











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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 02:50 AM UTC
Dmitry,
Wonderfull work!!!!!
Thanks for sharing
ltb073
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 02:56 AM UTC
Great work Dmitry maybe someone at Trumpeter will see this and come out with a KV-5 kit for us non-scratch builders
AFVFan
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 03:28 AM UTC
Truly SUPERB work!! I can't even put a kit together that looks that good!
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 06:20 AM UTC


This is just fantastic work, and I can't say enough how impressed by it I am! It captures the spirit of the machine perfecly.

I don't know if they would have been such a bad idea defensively: In the often wide open Eastern Front landscapes, if they could have retained a modest amount of mobility, they could have been very useful for defensive purposes: The limitation would have been the accuracy and quality of early-war soviet optics, as even as an immobile hulk the range of the gun would have been very useful defensively: The KV-2 sometimes stopped entire German divisions, all alone, for two days while immobilized, and their only limitation was the design of their optics and the design purpose of their gun...

Much is made of the usefulness of the "more sensible" T-34, but what is often forgotten is the terrible price in losses that the Soviets felt they could afford: Often attacks were made early in the morning while German tank oil was still frozen, making the German tanks immobile, and still the attacks failed at terrible losses against completely immobile tanks and artillery...

Gaston



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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 06:25 AM UTC
You scratch builders MAKE ME SICK!! (with envy)

Great work. I can barely handle after market photo etch, this is on another level of brilliance. Two beers for you....
Dmitry100
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 07:04 AM UTC
Colleagues, many thanks for your responses!

I forgot to show two more tools which I use in operation:



Without these instruments it would be difficult to me to work with fine details.

Gaston Marty,

I think that appearance of such tanks at the beginning of WW II would be an unpleasant surprise for Germans.
But... it is impossible to alter history.
Therefore, let the model of this tank provides guidance on to possible force which wasn't carried out.

Bill Cross,

Separate thanks for beer!

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