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My BA-3 in progress
Beaker
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 03:13 AM UTC
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Here's another try.


It's the Eastern Express kit. Allthough it's a neat kit, it lacks a lot of details and lots of rivets. So I removed all the details, smoothed the surface and remade the details and a couple of hundreds of rivets. I also used some parts from the Eduards PE-set. The nice gun and wheels are from Armo. Lenses from Tron.
The wheels are just fitted for these pictures, to ease the painting.

Please let me hear your thoughts about this one. Comments and remarks are welcome...

Greetings,
Hugo






















GunTruck
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 03:19 AM UTC
In the raw your efforts look very nice - much more than what comes in the box. Welcome to Armorama Beaker. Looking forward to seeing you paint and finish the armored car.

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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 03:26 AM UTC
Welcome to Armorama Beaker. You have added a lot of detail and it is looking good. As Gunnie says I also look forward to seeing some omre in progress pics and seeing it completed,
WeWillHold
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 03:45 AM UTC
Welcome to Armorama Beaker!

Very very impressive here. Lots of detail. The closeup pics are particularly illustrated of the detailing effort you have put in here. I love looking at these mixed media builds---very good stuff here!

Keep us posted please as you progress.

Steve aka WeWillHold
ps: What method did you use to make the rivets?
penpen
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 04:53 AM UTC
That's great !
I hope my BA6 will look as good when I find the courage to finish it !
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 08:48 AM UTC
Very nice. Can't wait to see more pics of it when it's painted!

Welcome to Armorama!
Kencelot
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 09:31 AM UTC
Looks like Eastern Expess is the kit to get! I was given a BA-20 from B.U.M (Barcelona Universal Models) as a gift. Wow, is it a terrible kit. Garbage plastic, nothing fits, details non-existant!
Yours looks very nice. I like all the rivets and bolts you added. Like eveyone else said, I can't wait to see it painted. In whose army is it going to be in? I was going to make mine as part of the Republican forces of the Spanish Civil War. Keep us posted.

Welcome aboard the big "A"!
Teacher
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 10:00 AM UTC
Looks like a fantastic build. Well done! And welcome by the way! A hell of a lot of effort has gone into improving that kit. It's a small thing and I'm sure you've already noticed it....but the left headlamp is a little wonky. I'm only mentioning it just in case!
You have some really nice sharp bends in the PE there, what was it you used?

Vinnie
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 10:08 AM UTC
nice job! i like to see these sort of pics,shows how much work goes into detailing, by the way, what nationality is this machine? (im just a simple air modeller!) p.s. welcome to the best modelling site going
tazz
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 05:27 PM UTC
that is cool looking is that a french amored car or a russain and was it used in ww2.
but any ways u are doing a great job on this kit
Beaker
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 10:57 PM UTC
Hi Guys,

Thanks for those nice welcoming words. I recently joined the Armorama club and I must say I can see really good work and tips etc.

The method for making these rivets is very easy, I've read this tip in AFV Modeler. Since I don't have a Punch&Die, here's what I do:
You only need a pinvise, a set of drills (the shaft of the drill has to be the same as the drill diameter, I use Tamiya's set of 0.3-0.4-0.5-0.6-0.8mm) and a cutting surface (don't know the English word, but I mean those green coloured plastic hobby plates ). Reverse the drill (the diameter you want) into the pinvise, take some Evergreen plastic sheet and put it on the cutting surface( ) and just punch those rivets. You just have to give it a try, it works great and very fast, and the results are very nice, realistic halfrounded rivetheads in exactly the diameter you want...

Thanks Kencelot, I want to build it as a Russian WWII vehicle. The EE kit isn't that bad, it just needs some extra details. I would say: go for it, it's worth the effort. If you want to build yours as it was seen in the Spanish Civil War, there is a nice article in Steel Masters Hors-serie Nr.15, which covers a very nice BA-6.

Thanks for the tip Teacher, I will put the left headlamp rightup. For bending the PE I use the Hold&Fold, which is very useful for this kind of work.

Thanks again guys, and I'll post some more pics when he's ready.

Greetings,
Hugo AKA Beaker
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 11:07 PM UTC
Beaker, welcome to Armorama.

As I am a big fan of detailed kits and of russian ww2 vehicles it gives me a nice warm glow to see work like this here. You have done a splendid job on this kit and I look forward to seeing some updated shots of the finished vehicle. :-)

Lee
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 11:14 PM UTC
All I can do is repeat Lee's comments...nice warm glow about the Russian stuff....are you counting rivets to get to sleep !!

Beaker
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2003 - 06:25 AM UTC
Here is how I make the rivets:


All you need are a cutting surface, a pinvise, a drillbit (in this case 0.6mm), a small hammer and some Evergreen sheet (here you can see 0.25x6.3mm).




Now reverse the drillbit and mount it in the pinvise, put the plastic sheet on the surface and punch VERY GENTLY with the hammer. It’s important to find the “breaking point”, what I mean is what force is needed to separate the rivethead from the sheet by only punching…


Here you can see that 2 rivetheads came right off by just punching, the other 3 are still on the sheet and just need to be sliced off with a SHARP hobbyknife.


Here you can see the result, 5 nice looking rivetheads (halfround as can be seen on the top of the needle, and according to the selected diameter (see the steel ruler).

I hope everything is clear now, if not, please don’t hesitate to ask me…
Just give it a try, it’s not that difficult as it seems, it just needs a little bit of practice…

Greetings,
Hugo AKA Beaker
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