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Armor/AFV: What If?
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Panzer IV Ideas
suikmoto
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Posted: Monday, December 08, 2014 - 07:37 PM UTC
I made somekinda late war conversion for pziv to mount 88mm gun in open turret. https://gallery.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/422905
Bravo1102
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Posted: Monday, December 08, 2014 - 08:02 PM UTC
I like the missile ideas. But how about combination AA/AT? Blank off the turret ring, put a loading hatch and a commander's cupola with a Sagger or TOW launcher going one way and a zsu-23 the other.

Or an Afghan bargain basement zsu-23 with a pile of Stingers cobbled together.
Rhaivaen
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 - 06:16 AM UTC

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When you think about it the PzIV had a small confined turret throughout it's career. Up gunning would require a larger turret so the skys the limit here. Post WWII would mean at least a 90mm so maybe a T34/85 turret?

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This is actually untrue. The Panzer IV was renowned for its spacious confines, which in the latter half of the war might be to a more normal size with the weapon in it never changing calibre size.
Compare it to French tanks which were renowned for their tiny turrets, and you will understand.
Homer0331
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 - 12:49 PM UTC

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When you think about it the PzIV had a small confined turret throughout it's career. Up gunning would require a larger turret so the skys the limit here. Post WWII would mean at least a 90mm so maybe a T34/85 turret?

G



This is actually untrue. The Panzer IV was renowned for its spacious confines, which in the latter half of the war might be to a more normal size with the weapon in it never changing calibre size.
Compare it to French tanks which were renowned for their tiny turrets, and you will understand.


Why would you even comment on a 4 year old thread?
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