I dont know if any of you guys got this yet, but I did right away for my new Tamiya ODS Bradley. It is the 3 new ( YES, NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) photo etch sets for the M2A2 Bradley.
Before you guys start saying, but I want an ODS Bradley, or a M3 Bradley, these stes will work.
Here are the set numbers:
#35613 M2 Bradley Turret Interior (NNNNNNEEEEEEWWWWW!!!!) Great set
#35583 M2 Bradley Interior (Some old and some new stuff)
#35584 M2 Bradley Exterior (Once again, some old and some new)
Let me just say, when the TURRET BASKET is put together and attached, it looks great.
I 'll probaly just write some reviews and summit them. I also got phot etch sets for my Abrams too, the IFF panels set and the Exhaust Cover set.
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Epi
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ThomasB
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Ok, maybe it's me that is a little thick and don't get it, but who makes the sets?
Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2003 - 09:07 PM UTC
It's not you, Pete was too happy and forgot to say that these sets are from Eduard. I may add that none of these sets include the new tie-downs that are bolted on each sides of the Bradley ODS and would be a pain in the neck (or elsewhere) to scratchbuild 
Frenchy
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Vodnik
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2003 - 09:16 PM UTC
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I dont know if any of you guys got this yet, but I did right away for my new Tamiya ODS Bradley.
Well... Actually NONE of these new Eduard sets is designed for new Tamiya ODS Bradley :-(
They are all for old Tamiya/Academy M2 kits. Only some of the parts will work for M2A2 and M2A2ODS kits. I don't know how much of the turret set can be used for newer Bradleys, but interior set is mostly useless as interior of A2/A2ODS variants is very different from M2 interior (and no A2 kit comes with any interior parts anyway!). Also most exterior parts are useless for uparmored A2 varians
Best Regards,
Pawel
Epi
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2003 - 09:38 PM UTC
Sorry Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes they are from Eduard.
Vodnik,
I know they are not fot the new kit, but there is still alot of usefull stuff.
Frenchy,
I agree, I wish they did include thos tie downs, but that still would be a pain in the but to remove and relace all those bolt heads. May be Eduard will come out with a ODS Bradley set.
As far as what can be used: Unless you are building a A3 version, the A2's and A'nothings look almost Identical. The radios might be different (SINCGARS vrs PRC's). I'm not trying to be a show off or talk down to any one, but I was a TOW repaireman during my 6 years of active duty and I am still a TOW repaireman in the National Guard. In the 12+ years, I've been inside and out of a Bradley turret.
Now with the interior set, you can still use all the driver compartment items and the weapons brackets. The seat belts will come in handy and the periscope heads are usefull too.
The exterior set has lots of usefull goodies from the grills to the tool holders on the top of the hull.
Check out the instruction sheets at Eduards sight. I did before i bought these to make sure they weren't going to be useless.
Vodnik,
I know they are not fot the new kit, but there is still alot of usefull stuff.
Frenchy,
I agree, I wish they did include thos tie downs, but that still would be a pain in the but to remove and relace all those bolt heads. May be Eduard will come out with a ODS Bradley set.
As far as what can be used: Unless you are building a A3 version, the A2's and A'nothings look almost Identical. The radios might be different (SINCGARS vrs PRC's). I'm not trying to be a show off or talk down to any one, but I was a TOW repaireman during my 6 years of active duty and I am still a TOW repaireman in the National Guard. In the 12+ years, I've been inside and out of a Bradley turret.
Now with the interior set, you can still use all the driver compartment items and the weapons brackets. The seat belts will come in handy and the periscope heads are usefull too.
The exterior set has lots of usefull goodies from the grills to the tool holders on the top of the hull.
Check out the instruction sheets at Eduards sight. I did before i bought these to make sure they weren't going to be useless.
sgtreef
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2003 - 10:50 PM UTC
Quoted Text
I dont know if any of you guys got this yet, but I did right away for my new Tamiya ODS Bradley. It is the 3 new ( YES, NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) photo etch sets for the M2A2 Bradley.
Before you guys start saying, but I want an ODS Bradley, or a M3 Bradley, these stes will work.
Here are the set numbers:
#35613 M2 Bradley Turret Interior (NNNNNNEEEEEEWWWWW!!!!) Great set
#35583 M2 Bradley Interior (Some old and some new stuff)
#35584 M2 Bradley Exterior (Once again, some old and some new)
Let me just say, when the TURRET BASKET is put together and attached, it looks great.
I 'll probaly just write some reviews and summit them. I also got phot etch sets for my Abrams too, the IFF panels set and the Exhaust Cover set.
Sounds like you have your holiday season ready for you Epi
Epi
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2003 - 11:10 PM UTC
Definately Jeff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I moved back home acouple of months and all my stuff is still packed away along with all my unbuilt kits. So I decided to concentrate on just 5 kits this winter and make a diorama. I have the Tamiya M1025 amd M113A2 about 99% done. All they need is gear. I didnt put no photoetch on them. I just started the Bradley and at the same time working on a M1A1 both with there propesctive photo etche sets. I have my first set of 4 Modern Marines set ( CHANGED TO ARMY OF COURSE) 99% done and the driver of the Hummer and driver and TC of the M113 rebuilt from the kit figures and the Modern Marines set waiting to be painted.
I lied, I am also going to finish a 5 vehicle dirama for my unit here next month. Busy, busy!!!!!!!!!!
I moved back home acouple of months and all my stuff is still packed away along with all my unbuilt kits. So I decided to concentrate on just 5 kits this winter and make a diorama. I have the Tamiya M1025 amd M113A2 about 99% done. All they need is gear. I didnt put no photoetch on them. I just started the Bradley and at the same time working on a M1A1 both with there propesctive photo etche sets. I have my first set of 4 Modern Marines set ( CHANGED TO ARMY OF COURSE) 99% done and the driver of the Hummer and driver and TC of the M113 rebuilt from the kit figures and the Modern Marines set waiting to be painted.
I lied, I am also going to finish a 5 vehicle dirama for my unit here next month. Busy, busy!!!!!!!!!!
Euro_Pro_USA
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 03:07 AM UTC
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#35583 M2 Bradley Interior (Some old and some new stuff)
Unlike the 2nd M3 Kit that Tamya released, the ODS M2 has no interior . SO is the Edouard stuff mentioned above a complete interior for the ODS ???? I mean that would mean that the EDOuard set would be better than the M3 interior of Tamya `s kit ?
SEDimmick
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 03:19 AM UTC
I'm sure with in the next couple months Eduard will have a specific M2A2 ODS set out. I just hope it doesnt take as long as the Italeri M1A2 set did! 
Vodnik
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 03:37 AM UTC
Quoted Text
[quoteUnlike the 2nd M3 Kit that Tamya released, the ODS M2 has no interior . SO is the Edouard stuff mentioned above a complete interior for the ODS ????
The new Eduard interior kit is for old Tamiya M2 (and its Academy copy), not for ODS. It only contains parts that allow you to improve the old style interior included in the kit. Without the plastic parts it is useless...
Rgds,
Pawel
jimbrae
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 03:55 AM UTC
I'm now more confused than when I started following this post, in summary, are these Eduard sets 'MUST-GETS' for the Bradley or are they in the category of 'Pretty-useful' with some doubts? I want to do a modern Brad, however short of a new kit, I see everything as rather confusing. In other words, what is the current state of play re. availability and more importantly, how much needs to be done to bring it up to modern standard?...Jim 
SEDimmick
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:08 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I'm now more confused than when I started following this post, in summary, are these Eduard sets 'MUST-GETS' for the Bradley or are they in the category of 'Pretty-useful' with some doubts? I want to do a modern Brad, however short of a new kit, I see everything as rather confusing. In other words, what is the current state of play re. availability and more importantly, how much needs to be done to bring it up to modern standard?...Jim
Ok here goes my Option:
The Eduard Sets are for the older M2...not the M2A2, But you can use some of the parts off it on the newer M2A2 and the M2A2 ODS that just came out. The only set I can say that can be used with no problem is the Turret Interior, since there isnt really any major changes from the M2 to the M2A2 besides radios and addition of GPS.
Easiest way to get a Modern M2A2...get the Tamiya M2A2 ODS and wait for Eduard to come out with a M2A2 ODS specific set if you want to go that route. The older M2A2 can be used, but be warned that older M2A2's where given MWO's to have some of the ODS updates like the new Gunners site, etc...so you have to watch your time frame of when you want to depect your Bradley.
jimbrae
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:12 AM UTC
Thanks for that clear, concise post. I now feel a little clearer about it, thanks again. Jim
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:21 AM UTC
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I might just be splitting hairs here, but aren't all Bradleys modern? Well, except for a figure of the general in his WW2 uniform I mean.
Euro_Pro_USA
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 10:14 AM UTC
I AM now really confused ...
ok the interior edouard set is for the old M2 bradley . BUt you still need to use Tamya`s M3 plastic interior to complete along with the edouard interior set the M2 interiror ..yes just removing the Seats of the M3 interior.
Taking the old M2 brdley which has no interior and adding the edouard interior set makes no sense ..or did Tamya once released an M2A2 with interior ?????
ok the interior edouard set is for the old M2 bradley . BUt you still need to use Tamya`s M3 plastic interior to complete along with the edouard interior set the M2 interiror ..yes just removing the Seats of the M3 interior.
Taking the old M2 brdley which has no interior and adding the edouard interior set makes no sense ..or did Tamya once released an M2A2 with interior ?????
Sabot
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 11:04 AM UTC
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I AM now really confused ...
ok the interior edouard set is for the old M2 bradley . BUt you still need to use Tamya`s M3 plastic interior to complete along with the edouard interior set the M2 interiror ..yes just removing the Seats of the M3 interior.
Taking the old M2 brdley which has no interior and adding the edouard interior set makes no sense ..or did Tamya once released an M2A2 with interior ?????
Hmmm, let me see:
Tamiya M3 Bradley (35131): Basic Bradley with not interior.
Tamiya M2 Bradley (35132): Same kit as the M3 but with M2 specific parts and an M2 interior.
Tamiya M2A2 (35152): Same kit as the M3 but with new armor and fittings to make an early M2A2. No interior.
Tamiya M2A2ODS (35264): Re-tooled M2A2 kit with new OIF features and fittings. No interior.
Academy M3 Bradley (1334): Copy of Tamiya M3 with no interior.
Academy M2 Bradley (1335): Copy of Tamiya M2 with interior and a copy of Tamiya's modern infantry included.
C.C. Lee M2A2 Bradley, poor Tamiya copy. Instructions said "Modelcraft".
Hobby Craft M2 "Bradley IFV", apparently a re-box of the C.C. Lee kit. Box art is an M2A2.
I think only two kits came with the interior. The Tamiya M2 and the Academy copy of the Tamiya M2.
Euro_Pro_USA
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 11:33 AM UTC
Thanks a lot
sorry my mistake .I found out that the one with the interior was indeed the M2 tamya did.
Thanks again
I checked your motorpool again concerning the Shelter..I still can t find the NAto pattern for the shelter (I need the pattern for the 5T Italeri truck with shelter,,,the instructions of that kit contain no 3 nato color pattern for the shelter.)
sorry my mistake .I found out that the one with the interior was indeed the M2 tamya did.
Thanks again
I checked your motorpool again concerning the Shelter..I still can t find the NAto pattern for the shelter (I need the pattern for the 5T Italeri truck with shelter,,,the instructions of that kit contain no 3 nato color pattern for the shelter.)
Jaster
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 11:43 AM UTC
Well...Its' good to see that I am not alone in my confusion! I've suffered from BCS (Bradley Confusion Syndrome) for some time now.
I've achieved a state of relative calm through the wise words of Sabot and others! Now, IF I HAVE INTERPETED WRONG SLAP ME HARD, but it seems that there is NO hard and fast rules when it comes to Bradleys. M2A2 interiors can be either the old style seating OR the new style seating. From pics it seems that the large rubber flap(?) at the front is on SOME, but not all A2s.
Is this correct?? If so it gives us modelers a fair amount of leeway as to our builds!
Sabot, others- is this a reasonable assessment of the M2A2, ODS, ?? configuration questions?
Blissful in my ignorance I am!
(it was a LOOONG week
I've achieved a state of relative calm through the wise words of Sabot and others! Now, IF I HAVE INTERPETED WRONG SLAP ME HARD, but it seems that there is NO hard and fast rules when it comes to Bradleys. M2A2 interiors can be either the old style seating OR the new style seating. From pics it seems that the large rubber flap(?) at the front is on SOME, but not all A2s.
Is this correct?? If so it gives us modelers a fair amount of leeway as to our builds!
Sabot, others- is this a reasonable assessment of the M2A2, ODS, ?? configuration questions?
Blissful in my ignorance I am!
(it was a LOOONG week 
kglack43
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 01:21 PM UTC
Geeeze...confusion is the word for the day, er, until Sabot entered into the fray. Now it's all too clear. Okay, i'm gonna get the M2 Tamiya with Eduard interior PE. Maybe i'll get a round "toit" one day. Thanks everyone for the input.
kglack
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Sabot
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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:02 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Yes, that about sums it up. When the M2A2 was upgraded to an M2A2ODS, not all M2A2s received all the modifications, for whatever reasons. There are manufactured M2A2ODS that would have received all modifications at the factory.Well...Its' good to see that I am not alone in my confusion! I've suffered from BCS (Bradley Confusion Syndrome) for some time now.
I've achieved a state of relative calm through the wise words of Sabot and others! Now, IF I HAVE INTERPETED WRONG SLAP ME HARD, but it seems that there is NO hard and fast rules when it comes to Bradleys. M2A2 interiors can be either the old style seating OR the new style seating. From pics it seems that the large rubber flap(?) at the front is on SOME, but not all A2s.
Is this correct?? If so it gives us modelers a fair amount of leeway as to our builds!
Sabot, others- is this a reasonable assessment of the M2A2, ODS, ?? configuration questions?
To build an updated M2A2 Bradley (ODS or non-ODS) you will need either the Tamiya M2A2 or Tamiya M2A2ODS. If you want an interior for this kit, then you will need the Tamiya or Academy M2. If you want to accurize the insides, then you will need the Eduard sets.
So to get a decent "modern" M2A2/M2A2ODS with an interior, you need to buy two different Bradley model kits and combine them. The good thing is that you can still build an early M3 Cavalry fighting vehicle with the left over parts.
Jaster
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Posted: Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 02:24 AM UTC
While we have the Bradley Q&A going...What are the large curved panels mounted on the armor skirts near the front of many Bradleys? Are they moounted on the outside of the armor skirts, they look like they are actually mounted behind the skirt, but thjat seems odd. What are they made of, they look like they are rubber. Are they mounted on both sides? And finally, what version(s) of Bradleys have these?
THANKS
Signed,
Bradley Confused, but Learning From the PROS
THANKS
Signed,
Bradley Confused, but Learning From the PROS
Sabot
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Posted: Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 03:17 AM UTC
The large panels are rubber protective skirts that prevent the soldiers' gear from getting ripped off the side of the vehicle as it traverses through forests and underbrush. Made from roughly the same material as truck mud flaps, these are an "ODS" modification. They are attached on the outside of of the armor skirts, just behind and under the far forward small armor skirt.
After re-reading your question, I think you also could be referring to the swim curtain covers. The curved pieces go around the edge of the Bradley, between the armor skirt and hull. These rubber covers have been removed on all late Bradleys. I'll leave both answers up in case one answers your question.
After re-reading your question, I think you also could be referring to the swim curtain covers. The curved pieces go around the edge of the Bradley, between the armor skirt and hull. These rubber covers have been removed on all late Bradleys. I'll leave both answers up in case one answers your question.
Jaster
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Posted: Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:00 AM UTC
Rob;
Thx- it is the panels that protect the gear that I was speaking of.
Thx- it is the panels that protect the gear that I was speaking of.
shonen_red
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Posted: Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 10:45 PM UTC
Ack! There goes my money. Those Bradley stuffs make me wanna get them all!
sgtreef
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 12:41 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextI AM now really confused ...
ok the interior edouard set is for the old M2 bradley . BUt you still need to use Tamya`s M3 plastic interior to complete along with the edouard interior set the M2 interiror ..yes just removing the Seats of the M3 interior.
Taking the old M2 brdley which has no interior and adding the edouard interior set makes no sense ..or did Tamya once released an M2A2 with interior ?????
Hmmm, let me see:
Tamiya M3 Bradley (35131): Basic Bradley with not interior.
Tamiya M2 Bradley (35132): Same kit as the M3 but with M2 specific parts and an M2 interior.
Tamiya M2A2 (35152): Same kit as the M3 but with new armor and fittings to make an early M2A2. No interior.
Tamiya M2A2ODS (35264): Re-tooled M2A2 kit with new OIF features and fittings. No interior.
Academy M3 Bradley (1334): Copy of Tamiya M3 with no interior.
Academy M2 Bradley (1335): Copy of Tamiya M2 with interior and a copy of Tamiya's modern infantry included.
C.C. Lee M2A2 Bradley, poor Tamiya copy. Instructions said "Modelcraft".
Hobby Craft M2 "Bradley IFV", apparently a re-box of the C.C. Lee kit. Box art is an M2A2.
I think only two kits came with the interior. The Tamiya M2 and the Academy copy of the Tamiya M2.
So I guess as I have two 35132 kits all I need is the CIP panel etch set or make one and that should be close to Iraqi Freedom one. Are their no more M2A2s being used?
Or fased out I know of none destroyed by any Force!! (++) (:-)
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