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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Cyber Hobby "LAH Early Tiger"
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 01:34 AM UTC
Just ordered this kit through TSHobbies. I need a Tiger kit and this will probably be just fine
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 01:44 AM UTC

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Hi David
Is this kit correct for the tigers that fought in Kharkov in early 1943?
Thank
Idan



Could you be more specific? Whose Tigers and what date?

David



LAH tigers, 405 for example
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 01:44 AM UTC
I plan on building mine as GD. Going through Tigers in Combat to see which ones and where.
Mike
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 02:41 AM UTC

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LAH tigers, 405 for example


405 was a Befehlstiger, so that's different. It is also an earlier Tiger than this kit. The turret bin and Feifels are different types.

David
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 08:34 AM UTC

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As an Orange Box kit, does that mean it has the "issues" of the previous Early Tigers?


I personally checked the instructions. Most of the issues from the old "Wittman Early" don't exist here.

So there are no accuracy issues with this kit? If so, then it's a helluva price for an accurate Tiger I.
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 09:17 AM UTC
Yep, I think so, too. That's good news for me.

Hope, my kit arrives next week or so. Unfortunately, I am quite busy at work right now. I hope, I can start my build next weekend
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2013 - 10:31 PM UTC
Hi fellows!
I got couple questions regarding this kit. I'm planning to build this kit as part of Tiger I -campaign on finnish modelling site and my target would be that "131" of pz.abt. 502 on Lake Ladoga June -43. Just couple issues:
- Did 131 had extra tracks mounted on turret sides and hull front?
- was it painted only with dunkelgelb?
- were there smokegranadelaunchers mounted on turret at that time?

David or anyone else, who has info, could you kindly help? I don't know how many of those corrections for early Wittman Tiger are accurate for this kit. All of them?
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 06:01 AM UTC
Still waiting for my LHS to get my kits.
Mike
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 06:35 AM UTC

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- Did 131 had (sic) extra tracks mounted on turret sides and hull front?


Nothing on the sides. We have no photos of the front, but other tanks in the same company at the same time had nothing.



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- was it painted only with dunkelgelb?


It certainly looks that way, or else it has been painted with mud.



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- were there smokegranadelaunchers mounted on turret at that time?


Yes.


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I don't know how many of those corrections for early Wittman Tiger are accurate for this kit. All of them?


Very few. The instructions are newly drawn and I personally checked them. But there is an errata sheet because of a tight deadline.

David
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 08:52 AM UTC
Thx a million, David! I counted on you. Reason for these guestions were those Dragon instructions which pointed, that you should add extra tracks on turret sides but in colourschemes they were missing.. I did found two photos showing 131 at that timeperiod on Tiger im focus -site; one from front, when it had number 22 on turret and one from side, showing s-granadelaunchers on turretside. Couldn't see extra tracks on fronthull properly and Dragons instructions lack those launchers from turret.
I think I can build a Tiger I, which is enough correct for me, my first by the way..
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 09:07 AM UTC
Everything arrived at my house, I think I will start my build during the weekend.

Thanks to Jason again for his help with the MG Dust Cover!
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 09:11 AM UTC
looking to buy a couple of these from hlj.com as not seen any in uk yet. 2 kits plus postage only £50.Paid £70 just for my CH carius mid off ebay...
Byrden
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 10:20 AM UTC
I assume that you're looking on the ab Mai 1943 page? Because I can't see any photos of 131 with 22 on the turret.
Another detail is that 131 doesn't seem to have the small folding legs on the engine hatch.

David
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 10:46 AM UTC

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I assume that you're looking on the ab Mai 1943 page? Because I can't see any photos of 131 with 22 on the turret.
Another detail is that 131 doesn't seem to have the small folding legs on the engine hatch.

David

David, I was looking this thread:
http://www.tiif.de/thread.php?postid=7093
You have to scroll halfway down. 1 thing: can't see where the shovel is located on those pics in your link..
Byrden
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 10:53 AM UTC
The front shovel would be in the usual position, e.g. like in Bovington.

David
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 11:00 AM UTC

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The front shovel would be in the usual position, e.g. like in Bovington.

David

Ok, thanks. Just can't see it in any of those photos.. Btw: early or Initial friuls for this Tiger?
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 11:26 AM UTC
Early tracks.
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 01:08 PM UTC
Does anyone know if any online shops have the kit available? Tried HLJ and it is backordered already.

Cheers,
Rick
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Posted: Friday, February 08, 2013 - 07:20 PM UTC

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Does anyone know if any online shops have the kit available? Tried HLJ and it is backordered already.

Cheers,
Rick


http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/chc9142.htm
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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013 - 03:03 AM UTC
My LHS still can't find them. I am really getting disappointed and might just cancel my order.

Mike
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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013 - 04:56 AM UTC
There's some on sale on eBay. Use the keywords "Early Tiger LAH"
Recon
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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013 - 05:13 AM UTC
The deal I got at my LHS was buy 2 get one FREE! So I guess I will hold out alittle while longer.

Mike
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Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 08:32 AM UTC
Sounds like their are some issues with this kit. There is a thread on another site outlining them.
Mike
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Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 02:45 PM UTC

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Sounds like their are some issues with this kit. There is a thread on another site outlining them.
Mike


What site? I did a search and haven't been able to find it.
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Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 10:45 PM UTC
Missing-lynx.
Look under the Axis discussion group. I am going to hold off on this one, doesn't seem worth it.

Mike
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