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What is the sideways "S" on Sherman track?
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 04:33 AM UTC
Can someone tell me what the sideways "S" on Sherman T-59 tracks is made of? Is it rubber, or metal? Can't find any good photos showing for certain, though it looks like it's black and rubber.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 05:17 AM UTC
Bill,

Do you have a pcture of the T59 track type? I can't find an image of them on the Sherman Register:

http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/track.htm

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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 05:37 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 05:51 AM UTC
Pretty sure that's a T54E2, which is all steel.

http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/tracks/vvss_tracks.html
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 06:05 AM UTC
Sorry, my error: T62 (Axis geek here, part-time Allied modeller). They would then be all steel.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:19 PM UTC
All steel and produced by Chrysler. They had the "export" contracts, that's why you see this type mostly on Commonwealth tanks.

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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 01:55 PM UTC
Not exactly. It's true that T-62s were produced by Chrysler, which made the M4A4 which was mostly shipped as Lend Lease. The Commonwealth used many other types of Shermans and Sherman variants -- but they wore what was placed on them at their manufacture points.

The frequency of the T-62s on Lend lease tanks is equivalent to M4A4s. Only very rarely do you see them on other lend lease AFVs.

Hope this makes sense.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 03:53 PM UTC

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All steel and produced by Chrysler. They had the "export" contracts, that's why you see this type mostly on Commonwealth tanks.

G



There were no "export contracts". The closest thing to them were the British Purchasing Commission orders from before Pearl Harbor, none of which went to Detroit Tank Arsenal (It was a Government facility, managed by Chrysler, not a Chrysler plant). There were only 30 less M4A2s than M4A4s given out under foreign aid, and Chrysler didn't build any of them. They are as good a measure of equipage as the M4A4.

If you look at the contemporary records you'll see that the track used on a tank was far and away more likely to be determined by what was available rather than any deliberate choice as to the style, construction, or ultimate destination.

P.S. It's called a chevron grouser.

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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 03:19 AM UTC

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P.S. It's called a chevron grouser.


Thanks for that, I'm certainly NOT grousing after all this great discussion and information!
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