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Completed SU-85 by Pnzr-cmdr
Pnzr-Cmdr
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2003 - 01:00 PM UTC
here are the final pics of my SU.. yes Dave, the dog is on the barrel.



sorry about the quality




I hope you all especially dave enjoy it!
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2003 - 01:03 PM UTC
Hey John....very nice work! Love the dog. Maybe get a better pic of it for us? Nice job. (++)
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2003 - 01:09 PM UTC
Very well done.Can you loop some thread through roadwheel centers and somehow induce more sag in the track?
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2003 - 01:51 PM UTC
Hi. Super model there. A real nicely done set up. I was just glancing through 'Soivet Tanks in Combat' from The Military book Club the other night and saw the picture of this vehicle. Very nice indeed.

I really like how you so realistically positioned the tarp.

For Soviet armor folks, this above mentioned book is s great source of photos for dio. ideas and just for the general building of Russian tanks of W.W. II.

Good work. Take care, sgirty
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2003 - 01:59 PM UTC
You've done well here John. You've replicated a small piece of history with this build. As I mentioned before, the tarp is really well done, the dog gives the whole piece some authenticity, ------- good work!


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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 03:38 AM UTC
Sgirty,
Where would I be able to pick this book up? I'm really getting into Soviet armor and would really enjoy this book.
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 06:03 AM UTC
Hi. Pnzr-Cmdr--I picked up this book, along with a whole series called 'Armor at War Series' from the Military Book Club a few years back. Think there was around 15 or so books in the whole set. Don't know if they still have them or not, as this particular book is copyrighted in 1997. They were printed by the Concord Publications Co. if this would help. This whole series is well worth the money and time spent in getting them as they all offer some very nice photos of AFVs in action; of all nations engaged in W.W.II. A bonaza of ideas in each and every one of them for all kinds of diorama ideas, or just building the seperate vehicle.

There is also another book in this particular series called 'Stalin's Heavy Tanks' that I would imagine you would be interested in as well. Hope that they are still in print and you can find them.

Good luck and take care, sgirty
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 06:44 AM UTC
Nice work, now ive read about dogs that were trained to destroy tanks in ww2, but i didnt realise that they also used them for Bore sighting!!!!
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 09:14 PM UTC
Nice beastie Pzr-Cmdr!!! I like very much the dog and the tarps. In my view you should work a bit more on the weathering (filter, wash, and drybrush), because the overall vehichle looks to me a bit too flat... I like the tracks and just love the doggy!
Ciao
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 11:12 PM UTC
The SU looks good Pnzr! My only suggestion would be some dust and paint chips etc. Or, we all know how muddy the motherland is!


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Pnzr-Cmdr--I picked up this book, along with a whole series called 'Armor at War Series' from the Military Book Club a few years back. Think there was around 15 or so books in the whole set.



I picked up the Panzerkampfwagen III book of that series, and agree with sgirty. The pics are an excellent referrence tool. Much help distinguishing different versions/modifications and indispensible for weathering. If you can find them, (I have no idea if they are still published)


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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 11:51 PM UTC
Looks good. So what color green is this?
Pretty nice job on those Tamiya tracks !! (++) (:-)
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 02:38 AM UTC
Very good job Pnzr-cmdr :-)
I like this kit. Dog is fine,too
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 02:43 AM UTC

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Looks good. So what color green is this?



Jeff,
I don't know if u're experienced with spray lacquers, but if u'll make a soviet armor next time, try Tamiya TS-28. It really gives the exact (most of) color of soviet armor basic color, and it becomes very well when u start weathering with oils, then.
Highly suggested
Pnzr-Cmdr
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 04:27 AM UTC
Jeff,
I used Vallejo #894 Russian Green on this beast...

Fabio I did do just one wash and some drybrushing and an overall dusting it's just that my camer is very sh*tty and doesn't get detailed pics.. i probably should've done a few filters but i've never tried them before...

PzkfwIII,
I did a dusting with Tamiya buff... if you saw the model in the flesh you'd see it, i seemed to over dust the roadwheels though. your right about the paint chips, i didn't add any, i don't really know how to make them realistically

well thanks for wour comments guys i'm not trying to blame the faults on my camera... lol

(++) (++)
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 07:17 AM UTC
THhat looks really good! I love the dog! Where would you get a dog like that?
NicE!!

~Chip :-)
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 09:04 AM UTC

Quoted Text

In my view you should work a bit more on the weathering (filter, wash, and drybrush), because the overall vehichle looks to me a bit too flat..



I have seen this problem a lot recently, trying to achieve a subtle weathering or variation on colour and it doesnt show up in the pictures as the lights bleach it a little. The thing is Russian armor looks more realistic with slighly over the top weathering and this would be a good model to take it that little step further ..... if thats what you want or like???
Dont worry about too much dust on the road wheels ... this would be normal in dry weather as the roads were turned to mud in the winter time! Overall the model looks great, but I have to agree with Scoccia, a burnt umber wash and alight dry brush would bring out the detail a bit more, without getting the heavy weathered look.

For simple paint chips a good method is to open up a ball of steel wool or a brillo pad with the soap removed. Then mix a nice rusty colour .... I use humbrol gun metal (53?) and German camouflage red-brown (160?) mixed 50/50. Dip the opened up steel wool in the paint lightly or add with a brush, then press into some tissue to remove most of the paint. then touch up different areas of the tank. This gives a very nice effect ... small scratches and no repeated effect. To practise this first would be an idea. Spray some scrap sprue with your same base colour and practise on that. Use a smaller ball of wool to get more control. Works great with a little experience of using it!

Another thing that could do with a little touch up is the spare tracks. One colour rust is a little unrealistic. Dab with different colours of brown and even orange. I use pastels for this and works a dream. Hopefully this gives you some options or help!
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 03:05 PM UTC
Lord Pnzr,

Very good execution of the model, I like the tarp, and the dog, will forget about it, it's awesome. Good work, keep them coming.

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