here is a closeup picture of the Mug of mr Methvin
Shouldn't be too hard to find something in the range of Hornet. I'm already looking forward to sculpt these guys. Fun to try my hand at somebody in a suit
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 06:14 AM UTC
Thanks for clearing that up
here is a closeup picture of the Mug of mr Methvin
Shouldn't be too hard to find something in the range of Hornet. I'm already looking forward to sculpt these guys. Fun to try my hand at somebody in a suit
here is a closeup picture of the Mug of mr Methvin
Shouldn't be too hard to find something in the range of Hornet. I'm already looking forward to sculpt these guys. Fun to try my hand at somebody in a suit
velotrain
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 07:19 AM UTC
Robert -
> "Houses on bridges were not that uncommon."
Florence has a famous one that still stands.
However, this is a house with doors on both sides of a stream, vs. on a bridge - no public passageway.
Charles
> "Houses on bridges were not that uncommon."
Florence has a famous one that still stands.
However, this is a house with doors on both sides of a stream, vs. on a bridge - no public passageway.
Charles
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 07:40 AM UTC
It sounds like a fun project, for sure. I almost wish I were doing it.
You probably have seen these figures with the hats. They look like they would work. I could see this guy with a bag of money and a gun:
And this guy casually walking out as if nothing had happened:
Of course the faces would have to have attitude like the two on the right:
Good luck with it. I'll be watching for sure.
You probably have seen these figures with the hats. They look like they would work. I could see this guy with a bag of money and a gun:
And this guy casually walking out as if nothing had happened:
Of course the faces would have to have attitude like the two on the right:
Good luck with it. I'll be watching for sure.
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 08:44 AM UTC
@ Robert
That are indeed nice figures. Allthough I would pretty much only use the hats of them. For the past few years I like to sculpt my own figures for some of my diorama's where commercial figures don't cut it. That way I can really create the feeling I want the scene to have.
Somehow I like it more to do a full sculpt then a conversion.
Funny by the way from the set of Hornet heads I'm currently using the fourth head to do a sculpt of a young Dutch resistance fighter.
That are indeed nice figures. Allthough I would pretty much only use the hats of them. For the past few years I like to sculpt my own figures for some of my diorama's where commercial figures don't cut it. That way I can really create the feeling I want the scene to have.
Somehow I like it more to do a full sculpt then a conversion.
Funny by the way from the set of Hornet heads I'm currently using the fourth head to do a sculpt of a young Dutch resistance fighter.
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 08:59 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextExcepting recently, I don't believe that US paper currency has changed in the last hundred years.
Matt - They've added a "security strip", I believe to everything but the $1. You can see it by holding a bill up to a light, which is why you sometimes see cashiers doing this. About 1/8" vertical, with "USA" printed repeatedly. You can't see it on the printed surface. I believe I've heard that the US $100 is the most counterfeited bill in the world.
Robert - Even in the small towns they would hit, banks would be built of stone, or perhaps brick. Usually classic architecture, perhaps some columns or pilasters - they want to project an image of strength and security. Where are banks in the Netherlands located? Corners provide visibility among other things - the busiest, most important corners "downtown" were the primary choice. Instead of Google Images, maybe try Historical Society sites for the towns they were actually operating in. There are possibly B&C sites with lists? I used to like Google, but it's getting harder and harder to get non-commercial results for anything.
Charles
Remember, this is scale money. The micro "USA" would not be visible. The security strip would not be visible, for obvious reasons.
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 09:34 AM UTC
Robert
In case you need more period pics of Barrow's 1934 Ford, you'll find some here :
http://www.tmethvin.com/henry/
and you've got a choice for the car license plates
H.P.
In case you need more period pics of Barrow's 1934 Ford, you'll find some here :
http://www.tmethvin.com/henry/
and you've got a choice for the car license plates
H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 09:55 AM UTC
@ Frenchy
Your web scrutineering never stops to amaze me. I had not yet found that site and there are quite a lot of pictures in there I did not yet know. Thanks for that my friend.
The licenseplates I knew. I saw that picture before. Also in the deathcar they had enough weapons with them to succesfully invade a small country.
Your web scrutineering never stops to amaze me. I had not yet found that site and there are quite a lot of pictures in there I did not yet know. Thanks for that my friend.
The licenseplates I knew. I saw that picture before. Also in the deathcar they had enough weapons with them to succesfully invade a small country.
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Posted: Friday, March 01, 2013 - 12:22 AM UTC
Hmmm I might have to give the spoked wheels another thinkover. I wanted to order them but when I arrived at the checkout I kinda got a mini heartattack of the shipping costs. I like those wheels but I don't like them at triple the price with shipping added to it.
This puts me at a dillema. Either I wait till I find the wheels here in Holland or at an event. Which brings the danger that I loose interest in it and the Ford I spend so much time at so far ends up collecting dust on a shelf. Or simply say.. screw it and continue and try to finish it
This puts me at a dillema. Either I wait till I find the wheels here in Holland or at an event. Which brings the danger that I loose interest in it and the Ford I spend so much time at so far ends up collecting dust on a shelf. Or simply say.. screw it and continue and try to finish it
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Posted: Friday, March 01, 2013 - 02:38 AM UTC
It looks like Soga Miniatures could be another source for these wheels. I haven't check the shipping cost as the access to the site is restricted for me (I'm at work...) but you probably can
Soga Miniatures website
H.P.
Soga Miniatures website
H.P.
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Posted: Friday, March 01, 2013 - 10:23 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, March 01, 2013 - 10:27 AM UTC
Thanks Frenchy
I visited that site but have not yet subscribed. Will dive into that this weekend to see if the shipping costs from Russian are cheaper then from Hungary.
I visited that site but have not yet subscribed. Will dive into that this weekend to see if the shipping costs from Russian are cheaper then from Hungary.
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Posted: Friday, March 01, 2013 - 10:41 AM UTC
I feel your pain. I usually find several items that I'll need in the next six months, and that offsets the postage quite a bit. It also adds to the stash. Win-Win!
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Posted: Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 04:34 AM UTC
The problem is that the stuff I'm usually on the hunt for will probably not be in most of the webshops. I like to collect and built old and rare kits. Plus conversions. For that reason I rarely buy brand new vehicles from the stores as it hurts less to cut up a second hand vehicle for a low price. I always find myself stockpiling for the stash with what I find on second hand stalls at events.
Tomorrow I will check what the shipping costs from Russia amount to. And who knows I will be able to mount the Spoked wheels in the near future.
Tomorrow I will check what the shipping costs from Russia amount to. And who knows I will be able to mount the Spoked wheels in the near future.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 03:14 AM UTC
Hi Robert,
Just read the thread and think this is a great idea!
An alternative idea for the rims might be the RPM Polish WW I Armored Car kits they put out years ago. They were Fords too. The kits are cheap too (at least here).
Other than the rims, he one thing in my opinion that would be critical to change/modify would be the grille.
Other than scratch-building, I can't think of a good alternative off the top of my head.
Charlie
Just read the thread and think this is a great idea!
An alternative idea for the rims might be the RPM Polish WW I Armored Car kits they put out years ago. They were Fords too. The kits are cheap too (at least here).
Other than the rims, he one thing in my opinion that would be critical to change/modify would be the grille.
Other than scratch-building, I can't think of a good alternative off the top of my head.
Charlie
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Posted: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 03:35 AM UTC
Ola Charlie
Thanks a lot for your reply. Glad you like the idea.
Sadly the RPM Ford wheels won't work. The Armored cars from RPM are based on the Ford Model T chassis and they had wooden spoked wheels. Looked considerably different from the Ford V8 Deluxe which had metal spokes. I think by that time there were not many cars newly built with wooden spokes.
What needs to be changed on the grill? I am going to use the flat-ish type grill from the Gaz which the famous Bonnie and Clyde deathcar also had. As far as I could see it only needs a Ford badge and the greyhound hood ornament that the car seemed to have.
Thanks a lot for your reply. Glad you like the idea.
Sadly the RPM Ford wheels won't work. The Armored cars from RPM are based on the Ford Model T chassis and they had wooden spoked wheels. Looked considerably different from the Ford V8 Deluxe which had metal spokes. I think by that time there were not many cars newly built with wooden spokes.
What needs to be changed on the grill? I am going to use the flat-ish type grill from the Gaz which the famous Bonnie and Clyde deathcar also had. As far as I could see it only needs a Ford badge and the greyhound hood ornament that the car seemed to have.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 05:49 AM UTC
Hey Robert,
The RPM rim thing is right unfortunately. I was thinking incorrectly, and I built one years ago! They say the memory is the first thing to go but I can't remember what was next.
I seem to recall seeing 1/35th wire rims in resin on ebay a while back but don't remember any details.
About the grill: From the picture of your kit, there are horizontal bars across the verticals. I think this was a "sexy" design element that the Soviets added at the time (or they had some left-over walkway grating from the tractor factory). I've never seen that here.
The RPM rim thing is right unfortunately. I was thinking incorrectly, and I built one years ago! They say the memory is the first thing to go but I can't remember what was next.
I seem to recall seeing 1/35th wire rims in resin on ebay a while back but don't remember any details.
About the grill: From the picture of your kit, there are horizontal bars across the verticals. I think this was a "sexy" design element that the Soviets added at the time (or they had some left-over walkway grating from the tractor factory). I've never seen that here.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 06:04 AM UTC
Quoted Text
They say the memory is the first thing to go but I can't remember what was next.
Hehehehe I really like that quote. Never heard it before.
As for the grill luckily that is something that is "easy" (relatively) to fix. Will pick that up when I start working on that part of the car. In hindsight I actually knew this. Guess you are right about the memory thing
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Posted: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 07:38 AM UTC
Don't know if you found the money yet, but this guys stuff looks pretty good, and it's cheap.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 09:08 PM UTC
Ola Dave
Thanks a lot for that link. Never seen those before but they make my life so much easier. I see Black Bart getting some of my money on the near future.
Thanks a lot for that link. Never seen those before but they make my life so much easier. I see Black Bart getting some of my money on the near future.
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Posted: Thursday, March 07, 2013 - 06:39 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I'm currently working on a Bonnie and Clyde diorama. The idea is that they come storming from a bank running towards their car and spilling bills in their flight.
Now I have no clue about the US currency. I know how a 1 Dollar bill looks but I have no clue what changes it underwent through the years. Factually I'm looking for bills as used in the 1930's. Can be any denotation.
I looked on Google but I get so many different examples that I'm unsure what to use. Also I would love to know what the sizes of those bills are.
Prior to 1929, bulls were 3.125" by 7.4218"; after 1929, the new, smaller bills (same size as today's) were 2.61" x 6.14".
Present US paper currency measures 2.61 inches wide by 6.14 inches long, and the thickness is 0.0043 inches. Larger sized notes in circulation before 1929 measured 3.125 inches by 7.4218 inches, all bills are printed on paper that is 0.0043 inches thick.
The 1934 Federal Reserve $100 bills had essentially the same design as $100 bills had prior to the recent redesign, so you would be able to use reference images on the Net (such as here) for images you could shrink to scale and print for the scattered bills. The Wikipedia entry for $100 bills also has front and back images of the 1934 gold certificates; these would have been issued to banks in compensation for the nationalization of the gold supply for use as reserves against deposits and Federal Reserve notes, but they were never issued as regular currency. I don't know whether a small bank would have them, or if they would be taken in a robbery, though.
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Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 - 06:37 AM UTC
Hi Robert,
I just read some of this age back and I saw the figures. I remembered seeing a figure that might do you by model victoria.
http://www.fieldsofglorymodels.co.uk/epages/es112712.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es112712_shop/Products/MV4077
Paul
I just read some of this age back and I saw the figures. I remembered seeing a figure that might do you by model victoria.
http://www.fieldsofglorymodels.co.uk/epages/es112712.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es112712_shop/Products/MV4077
Paul
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Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 - 07:15 AM UTC
Another 1/35th scale gangster option, but this one is not in a hurry :
You can even find Bonnie & Clyde figures in 1/32nd, but they look rather toy-like to me :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-1-32-BONNIE-AND-CLYDE-FIGURINE-PLASTIC-/320827035467?pt=Diecast_Vehicles&hash=item4ab2c80f4b
H.P.
:You can even find Bonnie & Clyde figures in 1/32nd, but they look rather toy-like to me :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-1-32-BONNIE-AND-CLYDE-FIGURINE-PLASTIC-/320827035467?pt=Diecast_Vehicles&hash=item4ab2c80f4b
H.P.
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Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 - 08:01 AM UTC
@ Sean
Thanks for that information. I think I go with the bills that Dave posted nice easy and ready to use. And if Black bart did his homework they should be right to size as well.
@ Paul and Frenchy
Allthough those figures are nice... Except for the Bonnie and Clyde figures from Ebay which don't really
There is one thing that these figures miss. Action. You can't picture those figures like that at a bankrobbery. So it will mean I have to sculpt them myself. And I'm confident enough that I think I can pull that off. Plus... Sculpting is fun.
But thanks for thinking along.
Thanks for that information. I think I go with the bills that Dave posted nice easy and ready to use. And if Black bart did his homework they should be right to size as well.
@ Paul and Frenchy
Allthough those figures are nice... Except for the Bonnie and Clyde figures from Ebay which don't really
There is one thing that these figures miss. Action. You can't picture those figures like that at a bankrobbery. So it will mean I have to sculpt them myself. And I'm confident enough that I think I can pull that off. Plus... Sculpting is fun.
But thanks for thinking along.
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Posted: Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 10:40 AM UTC
Robert: Yesterday I was digging around in one of my boxes of family heirlooms and came across a couple of Silver Certificates used by the US and thought of this post.
The top is an 1899 Series Silver Certificate. It measures 7 9/16" long x 3 1/8" high (189mm x 80mm). The middle is a 1934 Series Silver Certificate and measures 6 3/4" long x 2 5/8" high (157mm x 66mm) and is the same size as current US currency, which is shown at bottom. Apparently the Silver Certificate could be traded for actual silver and so is a bit different from a dollar. Hope this helps in your dio. Looking forward to seeing it come together.
Happy Modeling, -zon
The top is an 1899 Series Silver Certificate. It measures 7 9/16" long x 3 1/8" high (189mm x 80mm). The middle is a 1934 Series Silver Certificate and measures 6 3/4" long x 2 5/8" high (157mm x 66mm) and is the same size as current US currency, which is shown at bottom. Apparently the Silver Certificate could be traded for actual silver and so is a bit different from a dollar. Hope this helps in your dio. Looking forward to seeing it come together.
Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 11:18 AM UTC
Ola Zon
Awesome
That is some good information and thanks for taking the time to photograph and measure them. That is info that sure will come in handy soon.
So far I'm really amazed at the help and feedback I have been getting. With all that input I must do my best not to dissapoint you all... Oh the pressure
Awesome
That is some good information and thanks for taking the time to photograph and measure them. That is info that sure will come in handy soon.
So far I'm really amazed at the help and feedback I have been getting. With all that input I must do my best not to dissapoint you all... Oh the pressure
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