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Armor/AFV: Allied - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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dragon rant......short and sweet
newjoisey
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 02:24 AM UTC
i got the t28 super heavy [when will i learn to stay away from dragon] started on a boogie [have not glued anything] any one in trenton nj can come and get it free. pm me for directions otherwise its going in the trash 99% unopened
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 02:38 AM UTC
I know that are sometimes issues with Dragon Kits, but usually it has to do with their instructions. What seems to be the problem?

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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 02:39 AM UTC
What exactly is it that is annoying you about the kit?
c5flies
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 02:46 AM UTC
Will this help you?

T-28 Review/build

Looks like the bogies will try your patience, to say the least
newjoisey
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 02:51 AM UTC
imho. dragon likes to make kits then tripple dog dare ya to make things move. eg the boggies.......well the whole suspension and yes the instructions bite too
newjoisey
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 02:53 AM UTC

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Will this help you?

T-28 Review/build

Looks like the bogies will try your patience, to say the least

yes i have that review [thank you]
didgeboy
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 03:07 AM UTC
If you really don't want the kit send me a message and I will gladly pay for the shipping cost to send itnoutnhere to our veterans hobby program. Let me know. Cheers.
Tojo72
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 03:16 AM UTC
The part I'm looking forward to is glueing hundreds of guide teeth to the eight DS track bands,now why did they go and do that ??
ninjrk
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 03:36 AM UTC

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The part I'm looking forward to is glueing hundreds of guide teeth to the eight DS track bands,now why did they go and do that ??



It makes it look more accurate, so there's that. To be honest, it goes a lot faster than you'd expect, especially if you only do half of each track run. Probably took me about an hour all told. One nice thing is that the sprue attachment is on the portion of the tooth that goes into the track, so cleanup is optional.

The suspension is a real pain in the rear though, very fiddly.

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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 05:22 AM UTC
Of course, if it was a simplified kit with minimal pieces and no moving parts, it would be tossed in the garbage by someone else for different reasons! You can please half the people half the time, and the rest of the people the rest of the time, but you can't please all the people all of the time. The suspension, although fiddley, is about 75% of the model. Once that's done the rest is pretty fast.
j76lr
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 06:08 AM UTC
Dragon can take the fun out of modeling. Especially the tracks,and the instructions.Why cant they include the vinyl tracks along with the link tracks,this way you have a choice.
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 06:18 AM UTC

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Dragon can take the fun out of modeling. Especially the tracks,and the instructions.Why cant they include the vinyl tracks along with the link tracks,this way you have a choice.



They ARE vinyl tracks.
Headhunter506
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 06:46 AM UTC

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Dragon can take the fun out of modeling. Especially the tracks,and the instructions.Why cant they include the vinyl tracks along with the link tracks,this way you have a choice.



They ARE vinyl tracks.



Lou R means including a choice of tracks with every kit requiring them, not just the subject of this thread.
The_musings_of_NBNoG
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 10:06 AM UTC
Dude...throw it in the mail, I'm unemployed and would love to have something like that to gnash my teeth on
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 10:52 AM UTC
If you have never built an HVSS, you're in for a long haul with it being a DRAGON kit. If you have then you're set.

Now attaching guide teeth to the DS tracks? That just makes no sense at all but I still plan on getting one anyway.










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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 12:08 PM UTC
Don't know why there is all this stress.
I just finished the suspension on my T28 & started in on the tracks.
The suspension doesn't move much and is very stiff but, using a minimum of glue it does move.
And the tracks, just repetition.
Problem I'm having is getting the on-hull and sponson attachment points to line up.
Rearranging the assembly to get most of the bottom done so I can use the sponsons to align their on-hull attachment pairs
tanknick22
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 12:20 PM UTC
steve i sent you a pm
The_musings_of_NBNoG
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Posted: Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 12:33 PM UTC

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Dude...throw it in the mail, I'm unemployed and would love to have something like that to gnash my teeth on



send you back the postage too...

Used to live in Union...


~C
newjoisey
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Posted: Monday, March 04, 2013 - 01:53 AM UTC
it got donated to area church...........toys for needy kids
j76lr
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Posted: Thursday, March 07, 2013 - 11:14 AM UTC
You can donate it to various veterans groups or send it to the guys and ladies serving now.there are several modeling clubs for active members.
j76lr
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Posted: Thursday, March 07, 2013 - 09:30 PM UTC
Thats right headhunter ,Thanks
Eloranta
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Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 - 05:54 PM UTC
Damn those models and number of parts, all that building and and...
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Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 - 06:17 PM UTC
Ye Gods Another One ?....
I`m building their M1 Abrams SEP and it`s a nightmare too !,it`s being built along side two Tamiya M1`s (a 105 armed early version and a Gulf War A1,an Italeri version with the resin engine and an Academy kitbashed Sgt York Turret/M1 Hull and they`re all nearly finished !.
With the Dragon kit i`ve only just gotten to the turret - over-engineered or what ?!
Adamskii
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Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 - 06:51 PM UTC
I despise dragon. I would rather help you design some fiendishly cruel yet deserved end for the kit and pledge $10 Australian dollars tO your PayPal for photos of its demise! I m think time lapse pics of the sprues floating in a bucket of acetone or som aggressive to styrene product...

Evil Adam
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Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 - 06:59 PM UTC
bad Adam Bad
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