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Tamiya TS-82 Black Rubber
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Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 12:05 PM UTC
I just found it at a hobby shop. Is that meant to be their new paint for rubber tires?
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Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 12:34 PM UTC
yup.
I got it, used it already and like it.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 03:14 PM UTC

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yup.
I got it, used it already and like it.

Wonderful! Thanks!
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Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 10:54 PM UTC
I have it too. Better than working with making flat black work.










~ Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 03:05 AM UTC
Will have to check this out. I've been using their Dark German Gray with a few drops of Black for rubber tires.
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 03:31 AM UTC
My go-to is Nato black. How does this compare?
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 05:03 AM UTC

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My go-to is Nato black. How does this compare?

Tamiya discontinued the spray NATO Black.
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Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 05:22 AM UTC
I make my own tire black from Tamiya acrylics, flat black, red brown and a bit of grey to lighten. Works well and looks realistic. Cheers.
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 09:28 PM UTC

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My go-to is Nato black. How does this compare?

Tamiya discontinued the spray NATO Black.

I'm with you, Jesse. I use NATO black for worn rubber and flat black for new.
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 09:58 PM UTC
Hi All,
Curiously my jar's labelled 'XF-85: Rubber Black' is this the paint in question? XF-82 is 'Ocean Grey 2 RAF' on this side of the pond.
On another note: has anyone tried 'XF-84 Dark Iron' and 'XF-79: Linoleum Deck Brown'
I've jars of all three and have found them very helpful!
Tom
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 10:15 PM UTC

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Hi All,
Curiously my jar's labelled 'XF-85: Rubber Black' is this the paint in question? XF-82 is 'Ocean Grey 2 RAF' on this side of the pond.
On another note: has anyone tried 'XF-84 Dark Iron' and 'XF-79: Linoleum Deck Brown'
I've jars of all three and have found them very helpful!
Tom


I use XF-79 linolem deck brown as a base to paint my tank tracks
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Posted: Monday, April 01, 2013 - 04:08 AM UTC
I too have used that on my tracks. Then some dark washes etc.
It'd be so much easier to keep track of things if Tamiya had just changed the XF to TS.
I've just used the Dark Iron (XF-84) on the engine of a Dragon 250/8 scrubbed with pencil dust (graphite)and was very pleased.
Graphite over other colours (greens and reds primarily in engine bays), can depict an 'oily' sheen (just try rubbing XF-79 with some ground up pencil lead with a stiff brush) that I find quite pleasing to the eye.
Tom
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Posted: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 12:27 PM UTC

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Hi All,
Curiously my jar's labelled 'XF-85: Rubber Black' is this the paint in question? XF-82 is 'Ocean Grey 2 RAF' on this side of the pond.
On another note: has anyone tried 'XF-84 Dark Iron' and 'XF-79: Linoleum Deck Brown'
I've jars of all three and have found them very helpful!
Tom

The jar may be XF-85 but the spray can is definitely TS-82. Confusing, I know, but that's the way Tamiya does things.
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 11:43 AM UTC
Hmmm... XF 84, XF 85 -- seems they're not listed in Tamiya's on-line catalog. Would any of you folks direct me to a more current list? Cheers, Tat
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 03:07 PM UTC
Tat,

Here's a link

http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=72

Tom
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 08:46 PM UTC
Gents,just checked Scalehobbyist,Sprue Bros. and Squadron.None of them show XF-84 or 85. Jeff T.
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 11:30 PM UTC
Thanks Tom. The online catalog I use as reference stops at XF83. And I have always thought that this was the all-inclusive list as posted at Tamiya's international site. I better have a look-see at the LHS and check. Cheers, Tat
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Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 02:39 AM UTC
Looking at Tamiya's paint chart, I can barely discern the rubber black from NATO black. And, you can order the 23ml NATO black instead of a few jars of rubber black.
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Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 02:46 AM UTC
There are several available of the 84 and 85 on eBay. $3.50 and free shipping....

Mike
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Posted: Thursday, May 02, 2013 - 02:42 PM UTC
I have the XF-85 Rubber Black and the XF-84 Dark Iron. Tried out the XF-85...I LOVE IT!!! And, it's enamel, not acrylic...comes in a bottle similar in size to Testors. Awesome paint! Smoooooooth as sin....Worth every penny. About 2 1/2 weeks from Asia, but...yeah.

Mike
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Posted: Thursday, May 02, 2013 - 04:51 PM UTC
But, why enamel? I rarely hand paint a kit. And, Tamiya acryls are some of the best for airbrushing.
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Posted: Saturday, May 04, 2013 - 12:29 AM UTC

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There are several available of the 84 and 85 on eBay. $3.50 and free shipping....

Mike


http://www.hobbyeasy.com is a bit less. $2.96, including shipping.
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Posted: Saturday, May 04, 2013 - 03:56 AM UTC
I just use Vallejo Dark Rubber. Color looks great and doesn't leave brush marks when you brush it on. Better than Tamiya ever thought of being.
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Posted: Saturday, May 04, 2013 - 11:32 AM UTC

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On another note: has anyone tried 'XF-84 Dark Iron' and 'XF-79: Linoleum Deck Brown'
I've jars of all three and have found them very helpful!
Tom


I use the Linoleum Deck Brown mixed with Hull Red for a really nice shade of German Red Brown camouflage paint.

All the best,

Paul
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Posted: Saturday, May 04, 2013 - 12:26 PM UTC

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I just use Vallejo Dark Rubber. Color looks great and doesn't leave brush marks when you brush it on. Better than Tamiya ever thought of being.


Yes, it is true that Tamiya requires certain skills to use. However, it is great when run through an ab. I am going to order black rubber and dark iron, just to test them out. I feel that I will continue to use Tamiya NATO black, for rubber. It can be found in the larger bottles. I am not sure, concerning dark iron. I believe that in 1:35, this is better represented by black or gunmetal.
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