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Ruined buildings and city scenes.
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jointhepit
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Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 02:44 AM UTC
hello, started building a couple of days ago,I want to represent the ongoing conflict in Syria with a second small diorama, featuring my Shilka, older model of Dragon,made some own mods,and enhancements, no aftermarket execpt for the barrels,witch i got deadcheap

added some stowage,painted Soviet green,with some Sand spots (handpainted as seen in footage)then added filters and oils to repressent dust (I know needs more )

houses build from architect foam

WIP! buildings need some "civil war " touches, or should I say, lot's of holes!
sniperhole? sandbags on roof, still thinking of where and how many,

anyone know footage or pictures of a sinderblock building with "Shilka markings" on it,

the idea is a shilka been attacked by terrorists and took the initiative of striking back, then the other side ran away,after witch the Shilka let's his 4 barrels of hell rain on the guys further down the alley

here some pics

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any constructive comments on what I could add to the buildings is most welcome

greetz Tha Pit
hofpig
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 03:10 AM UTC
Air con for starters, maybe a satellite dish or a good old fasioned t.v. ariel. Anti government solgans and graffitti.

Built holes would be a starter, some other debris. Old newspapers

Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 03:10 AM UTC
Mr Pit,

You are getting rather good at the building construction, looking forward to seeing this one come together.

Did I miss the build of the ZSU?

Regards

Dan
jointhepit
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 03:24 AM UTC
thanks guys for the input, thinkin' of trying to make a satellitedish from a can,aircon, fo sure

slogans will be harder, them arabs aren't easy , and I wouldn't want a FATWA on my head for sayin' something blasphemus

didn't miss the build,if you'd like I can post some WIP pics of the beast

greetz
hofpig
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 03:30 AM UTC

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slogans will be harder, them arabs aren't easy , and I wouldn't want a FATWA on my head for sayin' something blasphemus



Now that has to be the funiest thing I have heard all day.

Paul
jointhepit
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 06:15 AM UTC
lol


promised, found some wIP of shilka

seems I used some left over pe,from something else

remade the guncradle,so it moves,(didn't know, well I never do, where the model is going to end up )

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painted green
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handpainted the details,and cammo
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already weathered and aged it a bit, but I think it needs more dust but that is for at the end ,so it blends into the dio
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well off to the attic for some more "fun" ,or as my wife calls it modellersSM addiction (sitting still for hours;) )

greetz
Dannyd
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 09:17 AM UTC
Cracking ZSU build my friend, how could you keep that from us ?

Keeping my eye on this dio build, looks like it's going to be a good one.


Dan
olivato
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Distrito Federal, Argentina
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 11:56 AM UTC
I like the lay-out a lot. Very promosing diorama you have in your hands my friend.
Definitely I will follow this one.
Cheers.
jointhepit
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 06:57 AM UTC
thanks guys


Victor,you are also watching,omg gonna have to sweat some extra

@Dan; if 'd post every build here,you guys would wonder if it was really me

anyways a full page of this section with my work would be somewhat "blasé"

Ps today made new base out of MDF 28/28 cm ,sanded some,painted black,still drying,update tomorrow

jphillips
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 11:15 AM UTC
Looks great! Have you seen this SAA Shilka on Military in the Middle East, its camo is green with hard-edged sand splotches like yours. Was that your reference?
http://milinme.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/syrian-army-vehicles-zsu-23-4m-shilka/
Too bad, isn't it, that aftermarket decal and figure companies have overlooked Syrian civil war subjects? As far as white decals go, Archer has nice sheets of Arabic numerals, but good luck finding the word "jaish".
Wisham
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 11:21 AM UTC
Very nice. Makes me want to take mine off the shelf and get started on it. As always, have a good one.
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 07:28 PM UTC
Interesting project!

If you don't have a problem using Facebook, check out this album about the Syrian war.. lots of pics.. you might find something that helps you with your dio

https://www.facebook.com/slava.trudu/media_set?set=a.533866883342008.1073741871.100001561035760&type=3

Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2013 - 04:28 AM UTC
That's a great album, lots of nice pics.
jointhepit
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Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2013 - 06:25 AM UTC
@Jphillips, you got me

@Warren;thank you ,so kind

@Hisham,Slava is already on my FB account


greetz
jointhepit
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Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2013 - 07:28 AM UTC
some update, groundfloor,added a little box,and wire running into house,seen this in Italy, and thought maybe they'd have something like that in syria, utilitymains and counters for the house

and made an impression of some shilka rounds, and smaller caliber rounds in the side ,with the help of my balistic satésticks to have the rounds penetrate through the cinderwall hollow bricks

made a desfunct window sill,and added damage

to make it more clear what the scene is
I made a drawing
corner has been target for small arms fire from SAA infantry
they asked support, no tanks available at the time,command send shilka

1 Shilka drive along road
2 Rpg team takes fire at Shilka,just missing it and hitting the corner of a building
3Shilka reposts with a quick blinf volley of fire to the location of the rpg team
4Rpg team runs away into alley
5Shilka takes position whiles firin' and destroys what's left in the alley

setting

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greetz
jointhepit
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 09:01 AM UTC
added another floor ,witch is still under "construction"

hope you like,didn't get any feedback on my last pics...must be the good weather

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olivato
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 11:37 AM UTC
Mate, as I said before, this is a really interesting project.
In the previous pictures we can see the details, and they are very nice, the windows, the bricks... outstanding work. (I love the work on the electrical (or phono line?) box.
The projected scene looks very convincing and accurate to the action in this type of urban war.

About the feedback, I don´t know, but sometimes a philosophical opinion received lot of replies and an original work showed from its beginning with lots of thing to show is almost unnoticed... I think the construction blogs have to be separated as they were at the beginning and I think you have to ask Keith Forsyth if he can change this to a construction blog.(It´s easier to find with the filter)

Do you have anything planned on this last floor? A second rebel team with a another RPG to attack from the top or may be a couple of death rebels... With the height of the building I think they are going to have too much exposition in the dio and something may have to be there. It´s only a humble opinion.

Keep on with your work, you are doing great. Remeber you have one follower looking at it
wildsgt
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 06:55 PM UTC
Hello Pit What kind of foam did you use for the building's
jointhepit
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 01:01 AM UTC
thanks Victor (my greatest groupie )
I will be adding some rubble and some woodplanks ect, to the top, sadly I'mnot good at converting figs, and the figs available are not to my likin.
the scene is also not about being shot from above, the rpg team ran into the alley,hens the shilka gives them back some love....


@Bill; just you read the opeing of this topic, i mentioned architect foamboard, artshops near big artschools have them,Cadaplac or something the main firm is called, but I'm not sure.it's a semi soft foam between 2 layers of thick paper, 4mm,8mm,12mm are the thicknesses,sensative material, easily damaged,kinda a nightmare for "clean building" , but rather intresting for building "less clean" builds, aka everywhere people want a roof and not a CRIB to live in

glueing with wood glue (elmersglue I think the Us name is),keeping them together with needles(buy a box with 100's,preff the onces with a round head(easier to push through the cardboard) or the small head onces , those can be used to increase structural integrety(?).
or for the fast or delicate parts, CA, but beware, CA does mean, touch and stick!, you put it wrong , it'll stay wrong, and if removed you mostly rip a piece of the other part to pieces

nevermind the stuck fingers to dio mishaps.....


I then coat these foampieces with a plaster wall crack filler, from a tube, from Solvay ,but just take care it has to be water soluable,so you can make a thick paint with it , then brush on model,it soakes in,BEWARE too much water can cause wrapping of larger pieces!!


need more info PM me

wildsgt
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 01:09 AM UTC
Thank you Pit
roudeleiw
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 03:09 AM UTC
Hi Tha Pit

Well done until now!

How do you get rid of the paper on the foamboard?
I did not succeed until now (ok, I did not try a lot)

Greets
Claude

PS. I am in Genk at Euromodelbouw on Oct.12/13
Perhaps I will see you there!




Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 05:10 AM UTC
Your building is coming along nicely.. and the Shilka looks cool.

I, too, have tried getting the card stock off that foam but I wasn't successful.. I wish they would sell just the foam on the inside by itself.

Anyway, looking forward to see more progress... and if you need any help with any Arabic slogans let me know.

I'm actually trying to do a decal sheet with Arabic slogans and stuff.. but things have been really hectic here lately with work.. and getting ready for the coming June 30th demonstrations against the Muslim Brotherhood here in Egypt

Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 07:45 AM UTC
I look forward to seeing that decalsheet, Hisham. I hope you'll be able to print some of it in white. And good luck at the upcoming demonstration - I hope you will all be safe. The army is already warning Morsy and his supporters that mob attacks against nonviolent protesters won't be tolerated.
jointhepit
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 07:51 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Tha Pit

Well done until now!

How do you get rid of the paper on the foamboard?
I did not succeed until now (ok, I did not try a lot)

Greets
Claude



PS. I am in Genk at Euromodelbouw on Oct.12/13
Perhaps I will see you there!








euh, just pull it off, taking care not to break it,pulling it off gives some structure to the foam,I have heard someone used a iron (clothes thingy) to get the paper to loosen,I'll give that a try tomorrow (if I can get that high tech wonder of Phillips to work )


I hope I can get to Genk
Ps I have met you, and I've seen your castle,think it was in Mol? very impressive,you keep going! I'd had lost energy ages ago

@Hisham Haikal
thanks a lot! I will try to find an "as offensive as possible " text or slogan to put onto one of the walls,can't go to war with roses now can we

take care, times are hectic
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 08:35 AM UTC
This is certainly not quite what I was expecting to see, looking good as usual. Hope to see some more progress soon, this is an excellent use of space and very useful example for me.
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