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Firing M240G From the Shoulder...true?
Thundergrunt
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Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 01:53 PM UTC
Yes

It is, but also you are talking rate of fire, optics/no optics positioning. I always if Standing tried to brace support side against wall,vic,tree what have you, start standing maybe to kneeling back up in new spot also if standing I always aimed low and lets the rounds rise vs trying to force them. Just my 2c but lots of factors fatigue terrian, weapon carry and so on. What is even better than the 240L, or SCAR-H is the MK-48. Mod 1 IMHO is the S!@#$ but we only had 2 with an Assortment of optics, and swapped them with an ODA for some 66's and AT-4's. The Mk.48's are the Business bro!! Don't know if they are in regular line units I think only 101st may have some that I saw at FOB Fenty, but I can tell with 100% that all the special units have them or can get them.
TacticalSquirrel
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Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 02:00 PM UTC

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So if a soldier were to fire a M249 (regular or Para) SAW from the shoulder, would the accuracy and realism be vastly different and (much) better compared to firing the M240 from the shoulder?

We're talking about a difference of 10+ pounds and 5.56mm and perhaps 100 extra rounds (or is the 100-round assault pack preferred?).


Much easier with a SAW. For me, I removed the bipod from my SAW to lighten it up, used a Grip Pod in its place. A new, well maintened SAW is a beautiful and very controllable weapon. Keep it nice and lubed and you'll have nary a problem. I ran mine with the butt stock collapsed all the way in since we were wearing armor and frankly, I'm a small dude. The picture below isn't my weapon, its my buddies, but you get the idea. The muzzle brake on the short barrel is also extremely effective and works very very well.

TacticalSquirrel
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Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 02:04 PM UTC

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Yes

It is, but also you are talking rate of fire, optics/no optics positioning. I always if Standing tried to brace support side against wall,vic,tree what have you, start standing maybe to kneeling back up in new spot also if standing I always aimed low and lets the rounds rise vs trying to force them. Just my 2c but lots of factors fatigue terrian, weapon carry and so on. What is even better than the 240L, or SCAR-H is the MK-48. Mod 1 IMHO is the S!@#$ but we only had 2 with an Assortment of optics, and swapped them with an ODA for some 66's and AT-4's. The Mk.48's are the Business bro!! Don't know if they are in regular line units I think only 101st may have some that I saw at FOB Fenty, but I can tell with 100% that all the special units have them or can get them.


I've heard of issues with the Mk48s, they beat themselves apart pretty quick from what I understand. I never got to play with one, but those I know who did said it was awesome when it worked, but you never knew when it would cross that line and go inop. I don't know if they ever managed to get a more effective buffer/ recoil system to mitigate that though.
jfisher1281
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Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 10:04 PM UTC
From my personal experience, no, I attempted and I quote attempted to fire the 240B from the shoulder using a bandolier cloth as heat protection from underneath the barrel. I ended up on my rear end. But I do know modifications have been made so this is possible for the 240/249. The M249 was a lot easier earlier in the war firing from the shoulder due to length, weight and design.
210cav
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Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 11:41 PM UTC
Insightful conversation about several magnificent fire arms. I have gained a great deal from listening to those who employed the weapon in combat. That we have so many combat vets who speak with authority on the subject is heartening. You guys did well!
Thanks
Trisaw
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 10:37 AM UTC
So adding all these Pictanny rails to the M240, MK46 and MK48, and M249 in addition to optics and laser designators, do these optical and sensor enhancements aid in aiming and accuracy?

One could argue that the sights just allows one to see where the bullets are going a lot better since the machine guns are not point-target weapons but area-suppressive weapons.
chumpo
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 12:24 PM UTC

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Peter

I can tell you first hand you can do it im 5'10 230, it is tough and you need to pick when and where you do it that monster is about 27lbs plus rounds and all your S!@#, but I just returned from deployment, and I carried a 240B on few missions and fired from the shoulder my first belt standing and kneeling. I had an Elcan MGO and Peq-15, sling and bipods. You can do it especially with adreanelin, Much easier with the 249. Here is a pic with my 249 CQSPW. I have to look I think I have a 240 pic.




Now it would be impressive if all that yellow on the ground was brass from the gun.
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