Hi Michael,
Many thanks. Still working on the stowage lol.
Cheers
Al
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2013 - 03:45 AM UTC
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I read somewhere recently that these sorts or wheels were for the purpose of checking the gauge fomaintenance.
Mike
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Lastly, and somewhat OT, I couldn’t resist this image of a shy but happy Swedish boy out for a Sunday spin with his dad in this 1937 scene – no doubt the railcar came out of the shed on the right. I’ve never seen railway wheels built like this, but they would offer lightness – a clear benefit for one-man hefting from the storage "track" to the main.
I read somewhere recently that these sorts or wheels were for the purpose of checking the gauge fomaintenance.
Mike
Posted: Friday, October 18, 2013 - 03:59 AM UTC
Check out this page on my thread "Waiting for a New Steam Locomotive". Frenchy posted photos of both a Velopede and a Motor Car each with those types of wheels.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/208814
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/208814
Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 10:14 PM UTC
velotrain
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Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 06:48 PM UTC
Alan - I recently discovered a photo that looks like it was taken about a minute before the one you used to start off your build. I think it's also by far the sharpest of the series of three.
I've also found the data for the series of three:
"Battle of Langemarck: Artillery shells being transported to the guns by light railway. Limbers, cars, carts and a convoy of lorries are also seen going forward on the road behind Elverdinghe, 19th August 1917."
Elverdinghe (Belgium) was apparently a major supply point - check out this image of the WDLR goods yard there. Kind of sets things straight for those who might have thought these railways were a small-scale operation.
I've also discovered that there's a fair number of models available in 1:76, including a 6-car field workshop train (closed for travel) - you're on your own for the interiors, should you wish to model it stopped.
I found another shot of a draisine hauling a heavier wagon full of shells, with a bunch of soldiers pushing. "A lorry engine converted for use on a light railway is hauling shells to gun positions. St. Julien, 13 March 1918."
These three photos are in the Imperial War Museum collection.
I've just found what looks like a works photo of a tractor with the earlier brass radiator, along with this text, "The change from brass to black radiator was effected in the U.S.A. in August 1916 but at Manchester in the UK not until mid 1917. Obviously in all these situations old stock was used up first." What's not known is if any with the older radiator made it to France - I'm wondering if that's on the model only because it's shown in the original plans?
This last one is quite small and foggy, but it shows a tractor wearing an improvised winter windscreen, and is identified as being at Ypres.
Have you found out anything about those two rods that angle out from near the bottom corners of the radiator? You mentioned them at one point, but I see you haven't added them.
I like your rope handles on some of the stowage - you just don't seem ready to stop ;-)
I've also found the data for the series of three:
"Battle of Langemarck: Artillery shells being transported to the guns by light railway. Limbers, cars, carts and a convoy of lorries are also seen going forward on the road behind Elverdinghe, 19th August 1917."
Elverdinghe (Belgium) was apparently a major supply point - check out this image of the WDLR goods yard there. Kind of sets things straight for those who might have thought these railways were a small-scale operation.
I've also discovered that there's a fair number of models available in 1:76, including a 6-car field workshop train (closed for travel) - you're on your own for the interiors, should you wish to model it stopped.
I found another shot of a draisine hauling a heavier wagon full of shells, with a bunch of soldiers pushing. "A lorry engine converted for use on a light railway is hauling shells to gun positions. St. Julien, 13 March 1918."
These three photos are in the Imperial War Museum collection.
I've just found what looks like a works photo of a tractor with the earlier brass radiator, along with this text, "The change from brass to black radiator was effected in the U.S.A. in August 1916 but at Manchester in the UK not until mid 1917. Obviously in all these situations old stock was used up first." What's not known is if any with the older radiator made it to France - I'm wondering if that's on the model only because it's shown in the original plans?
This last one is quite small and foggy, but it shows a tractor wearing an improvised winter windscreen, and is identified as being at Ypres.
Have you found out anything about those two rods that angle out from near the bottom corners of the radiator? You mentioned them at one point, but I see you haven't added them.
I like your rope handles on some of the stowage - you just don't seem ready to stop ;-)
Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 10:54 PM UTC
Hi Charles,
Thanks for the additional photographs. This is the one I think your talking about, it shows the number more clearly. I don't know what the rods are for but I will add them anyway. I haven't done much on the kit for a while, as I've been busy on my Somme dio.
Added a little paint to the 3rd truck but no decision yet as to what it might carry.
The picture of the goods yard is excellent. I've found most of the others and quite a few at IWM. I have a setting in mind but it's still in the development stage lol.
There is a lot of modelling mileage in this area as well as WWI in general.
Cheers
Al
Thanks for the additional photographs. This is the one I think your talking about, it shows the number more clearly. I don't know what the rods are for but I will add them anyway. I haven't done much on the kit for a while, as I've been busy on my Somme dio.
Added a little paint to the 3rd truck but no decision yet as to what it might carry.
The picture of the goods yard is excellent. I've found most of the others and quite a few at IWM. I have a setting in mind but it's still in the development stage lol.
There is a lot of modelling mileage in this area as well as WWI in general.
Cheers
Al
Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 11:28 PM UTC
Looking good Alan. Love the additional details.
Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 11:31 PM UTC
Those "rods" are fender supports. You would think they would have been cut off but apparently this vehicle can be easily converted back to a road truck if needed.
Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 11:38 PM UTC
Hi Darren,
Many thanks.
Hi Michael.
Thank you for identifying those. They are not in the original kit so I'll fashion something up to replicate them at some point. I noticed on the upturned wagon there are some support beans that could be added too, might be a bit late for me now but I'll see what can be done. Pity I missed that first time round, not that they would be seen unless you upturned a wagon.
Cheers
Al
Many thanks.
Hi Michael.
Thank you for identifying those. They are not in the original kit so I'll fashion something up to replicate them at some point. I noticed on the upturned wagon there are some support beans that could be added too, might be a bit late for me now but I'll see what can be done. Pity I missed that first time round, not that they would be seen unless you upturned a wagon.
Cheers
Al
velotrain
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Posted: Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 04:15 AM UTC
Al - I meant the earlier one where the limbers are across from the "train" and the lorries are much closer, and the tractor hasn't yet started moving. It looked perhaps like some guys at the back were trying to add a 4th wagon, but I'm guessing the driver felt he had a heavy enough load already.
Michael - Thanks for the info on the fender supports. I'm guessing #39 is a fairly recent arrival, as it still had its headlights, and they would actually be a negative at the front.
Michael - Thanks for the info on the fender supports. I'm guessing #39 is a fairly recent arrival, as it still had its headlights, and they would actually be a negative at the front.
PantherF
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Posted: Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 05:03 AM UTC
I've been watching this for a looong time and I am really impressed!
Jeff
Jeff
Posted: Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 06:02 AM UTC
HI Michael,
Thanks, I see what you mean. I have something similar in mind, but with the Ford T and an ambulance. I shall have to extend the track but that shouldn't be a problem!
It is a nice sharp picture as you say. Thanks again.
Hi Jeff,
Many thanks for dropping in. My Somme dio is nearing completion and once I clear some space both the Draisine and the 6" Howitzer and 18pdr will be getting some attention for the Great War Campaign.
Cheers
Al
Thanks, I see what you mean. I have something similar in mind, but with the Ford T and an ambulance. I shall have to extend the track but that shouldn't be a problem!
It is a nice sharp picture as you say. Thanks again.
Hi Jeff,
Many thanks for dropping in. My Somme dio is nearing completion and once I clear some space both the Draisine and the 6" Howitzer and 18pdr will be getting some attention for the Great War Campaign.
Cheers
Al
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