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New tool WW1 tanks for the Centenary?
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 09:40 AM UTC
FWIW I emailed Airfix and tried to tell them that it was practically their duty (of all the model companies in the world) to come up with a new rendition of WW1 British armour to catch the additional interest that will shortly be generated; they replied and said they have no plans in the coming year, but apparently they do keep a record of suggestions and take them into account when planning releases. So, that sounds like an invitation to bombard them with, ahem "suggestions". I did mention 35 or 48 scale, proper tracks, detailed interiors etc. by the way...
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 10:10 AM UTC
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Nick I'm slightly confused. You said the Emhar kit's a dog but then you say rivet counters ruin the fun for modellers and are responsible for higher prices?[/quote
I havev wanted to add a ww1 tank to my collection and with the advise of model builders as to stay clear of the emhar kits, and as for the rivit counters all they can do is complain about a kits inaccury for example Academy's M3 Lee and M3 Grant
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http://www.mbltd.info/proces.htm
Al
So they do. No doubt they'll have bloody rubber tracks though.
When I used to go to the movies there was a line that used to come up from the Rank Organization; "We can't please all the people all the time, but we please most of the people most of the time".
That's probably true for model manufacturers, but why rubbish a kit before it's even been produced? That doesn't exactly inspire them to produce more. You could look at it in a more positive way in so much as there will be 2 more choices coming along for people to choose from.
You may remember the Academy Grant. It go such a slagging Academy haven't produced an Allied kit since as far as I am aware, yet it was 100% better than the old Tamiya kit, yes it had a few issues that they fixed for free and is probably one of the most enjoyable build I've done.
Just a thought.
Al
I'm not rubbishing the kit I'm just saying I don't like rubber tracks. And also the Airfix and Emhar kits have rubber tracks already so wouldn't it be nice if MB could at least do some link and lengths which would be a big leap forward and might sway people to buy their kits instead of the dated Airfix and Emhar kits.
You can thank all the nit picking riviet counters for critising the kit, the rivit counters ruin the fun for the model builders and are the cause for the expensive kit prices
Nick I'm slightly confused. You said the Emhar kit's a dog but then you say rivet counters ruin the fun for modellers and are responsible for higher prices?[/quote
I havev wanted to add a ww1 tank to my collection and with the advise of model builders as to stay clear of the emhar kits, and as for the rivit counters all they can do is complain about a kits inaccury for example Academy's M3 Lee and M3 Grant
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 11:22 AM UTC
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But if it wasn't for rivet counters Nick model companies would just churn out the same old innacurate crap and we'd never get more accurate models.
I commented on the tracks because we've already got WW1 tanks with rubber tracks and I think it's fair to say most people hate them.
When I built the Emhar Male the first thing I did was ditch the rubbish tracks and get the Model Cellar links.
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http://www.mbltd.info/proces.htm
Al
So they do. No doubt they'll have bloody rubber tracks though.
When I used to go to the movies there was a line that used to come up from the Rank Organization; "We can't please all the people all the time, but we please most of the people most of the time".
That's probably true for model manufacturers, but why rubbish a kit before it's even been produced? That doesn't exactly inspire them to produce more. You could look at it in a more positive way in so much as there will be 2 more choices coming along for people to choose from.
You may remember the Academy Grant. It go such a slagging Academy haven't produced an Allied kit since as far as I am aware, yet it was 100% better than the old Tamiya kit, yes it had a few issues that they fixed for free and is probably one of the most enjoyable build I've done.
Just a thought.
Al
I'm not rubbishing the kit I'm just saying I don't like rubber tracks. And also the Airfix and Emhar kits have rubber tracks already so wouldn't it be nice if MB could at least do some link and lengths which would be a big leap forward and might sway people to buy their kits instead of the dated Airfix and Emhar kits.
You can thank all the nit picking riviet counters for critising the kit, the rivit counters ruin the fun for the model builders and are the cause for the expensive kit prices
Nick I'm slightly confused. You said the Emhar kit's a dog but then you say rivet counters ruin the fun for modellers and are responsible for higher prices?[/quote
I havev wanted to add a ww1 tank to my collection and with the advise of model builders as to stay clear of the emhar kits, and as for the rivit counters all they can do is complain about a kits inaccury for example Academy's M3 Lee and M3 Grant
But if it wasn't for rivet counters Nick model companies would just churn out the same old innacurate crap and we'd never get more accurate models.
I commented on the tracks because we've already got WW1 tanks with rubber tracks and I think it's fair to say most people hate them.
When I built the Emhar Male the first thing I did was ditch the rubbish tracks and get the Model Cellar links.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 11:24 AM UTC
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FWIW I emailed Airfix and tried to tell them that it was practically their duty (of all the model companies in the world) to come up with a new rendition of WW1 British armour to catch the additional interest that will shortly be generated; they replied and said they have no plans in the coming year, but apparently they do keep a record of suggestions and take them into account when planning releases. So, that sounds like an invitation to bombard them with, ahem "suggestions". I did mention 35 or 48 scale, proper tracks, detailed interiors etc. by the way...
Good on you for emailing them. I'm gonna do the same.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 11:28 AM UTC
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Quoted TextMaybe some of us should contact them to ask for new tooled Male and Females?
I did that a couple years ago when their aircraft models first came out. Got a replying email in under 2 hours!
Unfortunately, they indicated that while the land side of WW I interested them, they were not looking to do any vehicle kits for the forseeable future. I offered to take any measurements or photographs they wanted of the Canadian Whippet, too!
Bloody shame. I can only imagine how sweet a Wing Nugs Whippet or Mk IV would be, even if it was in 1/32 scale.
Paul
Good on you for emailing Wingnut too. I'm gonna email Airfix and Wingnut also but because it's Peter Jacksons company and I think he's mainly interested in aircraft they might just stick with aircraft.
Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 11:30 AM UTC
If it wasn't for the rivet counters we'd have much less accurate models and lots less information on how to correct the mistakes. Granted if you just want something that looks like a tank that's fine but for many the more accurate the better.
Also many people would go out of business as the AM trade depend heavily on offering the fixes where things have gone wrong.
Al
Also many people would go out of business as the AM trade depend heavily on offering the fixes where things have gone wrong.
Al