Hey Troops-
These are my latest pictures of this build. The only thing that I have left to do is add the radio antenna...... that is, unless one of you guys sees anything that I might have overlooked. I'm gonna wait to add the arial until after this gets put in my RMG dio, because I still might have to handle it a bit.
I am looking for suggestions from you guys as to what you would do to "finish this off". I have been looking at the darn thing for waaaaaaaayyyy too long... hehe I think I'm going blind :-) I want to hear what you guys would do to add any final touches to the kit. Does it need more weathering? etc.
Thanks-
Jeff
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PzKpfw IV H- Final installment before finish
jrnelson
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 05:23 AM UTC
slodder
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 05:27 AM UTC
First off - Wow, when are you offering classes on finishing.
It's for RMG - so how about a tow cable left over from when they had taken it off the rail road cars? Or, some Allied supplies that they picked up.
It's for RMG - so how about a tow cable left over from when they had taken it off the rail road cars? Or, some Allied supplies that they picked up.
animal
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 05:50 AM UTC
Ok here goes... I count one too many rivets!!! #:-) Other than mabe a tow cable and some soft gear I see nothing more that is needed with the exception of my home address so that you can send me this work of art. Three cheers and Bravo
Halfyank
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 06:12 AM UTC
I don't know much about German armor but the one thing every Allied vehicle has is lots, and lots, of gear hanging on it. Is this not something the Germans would have had also? Other than that it looks great to me.
TUNA
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 06:31 AM UTC
I want to say "Wow awsome job".. Especially that muffler!!! Work of Art"...
but I won't.. so there!!
#:-)
but I won't.. so there!!
#:-)
WeWillHold
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 07:14 AM UTC
Lord Nelson
From my point of view - its done as is.
But if you wanted to "tweak" it a bit more, you could consider applying just a dash of rust in some nooks and crannies where appropriate, perhaps a bit of steel to the track and sprocket teeth, and some dark exhaust stain near the muffler on the rear end.
To be frank, I wouldn't touch it --it's at the "Wow" level right now.
Congrats on this one Jeff---great work, and thanks for a wonderful string of in progress updates/ pics as you moved through this build.
STeve
From my point of view - its done as is.
But if you wanted to "tweak" it a bit more, you could consider applying just a dash of rust in some nooks and crannies where appropriate, perhaps a bit of steel to the track and sprocket teeth, and some dark exhaust stain near the muffler on the rear end.
To be frank, I wouldn't touch it --it's at the "Wow" level right now.
Congrats on this one Jeff---great work, and thanks for a wonderful string of in progress updates/ pics as you moved through this build.
STeve
thebear
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 07:27 AM UTC
Very nice job ...really looks great ...now If I were you (but I'm not) I would do something to the tow cable brackets on the back of the hull . Tamiya has just supplied two posts but actually these were L shaped to keep the tow cable in place ...other than that , well I know that these vehicles were mostly survivors from Normandy so they can be really banged up... a few scratchs and wear and tear might go a long way.
Rick
Rick
Pnzr-Cmdr
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 08:59 AM UTC
Jeff, I've told you time and again don't touch it anymore! It looks great as is and you NEED to leave it alone or you'll add something and it will end up making such a beautiful kit look bad! believe me!!!!
airwarrior
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 12:21 PM UTC
Absolutely beautiful I have to grab me one of these!
I agree with the others, a little rust'll go a long way!
I agree with the others, a little rust'll go a long way!
SS-74
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 02:40 PM UTC
WOW!
I am a German builder, I don't see anything I don't like and want to do myself. This is the type of weathering, I like the most, subtle. I for one don't dig all the rust thingy, don't get me wrong, I like to see rusty tanks too, but it's just I don't do them.
This is art.
I am a German builder, I don't see anything I don't like and want to do myself. This is the type of weathering, I like the most, subtle. I for one don't dig all the rust thingy, don't get me wrong, I like to see rusty tanks too, but it's just I don't do them.
This is art.
russ
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 03:59 PM UTC
One word......... Awesome!!!
IDHUNTER
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 05:16 PM UTC
Very nice work! The one thing that jumps out at me is the right-hand(radio-oper side) track. It comes off of the drive sprocket and meets the ground/roadwheel at a fairly severe angle. Although I have seen photos of tight tracks, on average, as well as a vehicle with some miles on it, such as yours, (that's some serious comma usage there) is going to have some sag at both ends. It would appear that your tank is making a left hand turn....intentional?
I assume you used individual track links? If so what was your approach to their assembly and fitting? I struggle with these. Overall a beautiful piece of work!
I assume you used individual track links? If so what was your approach to their assembly and fitting? I struggle with these. Overall a beautiful piece of work!
Alpenflage
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Posted: Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 02:20 AM UTC
OUTSTANDING ! simply stated. It cant get much better then this folks !! Excellent work, my friend. One suggestion, if this is a Market Garden Pz IV H, you might want to show the tracks with some bare metal, where tracks came in contact with cobblstone streets and paved roads. This is just an idea, and not a critque. You really did some fantastic work here, and we all got to see the progression as you went along. This helps us, help you !
Keep up the great work !!
Cheers !!
Robert
Keep up the great work !!
Cheers !!
Robert
jrnelson
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Posted: Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 04:35 AM UTC
Excellent... very good stuff to think about!
Thank you ALL for your input, it has been most helpfull. I still haven't decided what (if anything) I'm gonna do, but you folks certainly gave me some ideas that I hadn't thought of before.... exactly what i was after.
I think I'm gonna wait a bit, and get the figures done...... and on the tank, before I do anything drastic.... hehe Thanks for all of the encouragement and suggestions!
Jeff
Thank you ALL for your input, it has been most helpfull. I still haven't decided what (if anything) I'm gonna do, but you folks certainly gave me some ideas that I hadn't thought of before.... exactly what i was after.
I think I'm gonna wait a bit, and get the figures done...... and on the tank, before I do anything drastic.... hehe Thanks for all of the encouragement and suggestions!
Jeff
Gstealer
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Posted: Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 04:46 AM UTC
Wow, Great looking tank. Excellent job with it.
I wouldn't do the deeply scratched rusty look with it, but how about some scuffs in the dust where bushes and branches have run along the sides?
I wouldn't do the deeply scratched rusty look with it, but how about some scuffs in the dust where bushes and branches have run along the sides?