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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Brummbar hatch interior color
ruqui1
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2014 - 12:20 PM UTC
Hi,

I'm building a Brummbär mid production (Dragon 6500 kit) and I'm planning to leave the commander's hatch open, I'm wondering what color should have the hatches ... should they be ivory or the base color of the outside of the tank (Dunkelgelb in my case)?

What do you think?

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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2014 - 12:34 PM UTC
Generally hatches were painted the base color of the vehicle. Occasionally you'll find one in "ivory", but those are rarities.
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2014 - 04:46 PM UTC
I think I would be more blunt and assertive about this than was Bob!

"The inside surfaces of hatch covers were painted the external hull base color" - from at latest later 1940.

I very strongly doubt any brummie ever had an "elfinbein" (sort of ivory) hatch-surface visible!

Bob
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2014 - 05:01 PM UTC
Tank crews religiously even applied mud to their pioneer tools so as to dampen any shiny metal. Toilet tissue was dark colored. Like Bob said earlier, an occasional oddball is spotted in photos early during the conflict. None (that I'm aware of) after although not if you look at modelers' work
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2014 - 08:57 PM UTC
I just learned over time that in most wartime situations it's a good practice to never say never.
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2014 - 12:55 AM UTC
True! But I think modelers tend to skew the frequencies of rarities. For some humor, look at this:

Things I learned about military history from models
AFVFan
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2014 - 06:07 AM UTC
Your statement is very true, Roy. ..... and I have an older version of that same list bookmarked on my desktop. I found it sometime back and forever find humor in it.
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2014 - 07:32 AM UTC
what about every german tank has to have at least one panel that the painter forgot to paint ,so it left the factory with red primer showing ..?

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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2014 - 03:06 AM UTC
I thought that was a fact: red primer with chalk marks in action!
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Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 12:19 AM UTC
Thank you for your comments! I've finally painted the hatch with Dunkelgelb.

PS:The post about WWII facts is great! Following this document, I'm planning to show the commander with almost all of his body outside the vehicle
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Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 11:20 AM UTC
IF you are considering a dio for this... maybe a piano parked by the roadside with several full steins on it would be good!

Having also read that post of hilarious (but TRUE! Honest!) WWII facts!

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Posted: Monday, March 17, 2014 - 09:10 AM UTC
Thanks for posting that, Roy!

My addition: The Battle of the Bulge only lasted until the liberation of Bastogne and was entirely fought by the 101st Airborne and the 4th Armored Division.

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Posted: Monday, March 17, 2014 - 10:31 AM UTC
And Monty saved the Allies in NWE by setting a firm defense to stop the Germans during the BoB, That was the real reason they turned back, not the Airborne or any American troops.

A. Hitler was the best Allied leader we had working against the German Army or Waffen SS.
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