Nice one Lee...those powders worked well for you in the end !!...the finnish is very very good....and its GREEN and not red...so dont let your son tell you otherwise
Did Gerry get to you re the figs you need ??...he said OK
Alasdair
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Finished M4A1 DD Sherman (well almost..)
SlapHead
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Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 10:06 PM UTC
crossbow
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Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 10:19 PM UTC
Hi Lee,
I'm not a Sherman expert, but I get the impression something is missing and I can't put my finger on it. Somebody else??
Other than that "missing" feeling it looks very good.
Kris
I'm not a Sherman expert, but I get the impression something is missing and I can't put my finger on it. Somebody else??
Other than that "missing" feeling it looks very good.
Kris
SlapHead
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 12:44 AM UTC
Hi Lee....you ARE going to add tow roaps / chains and tools ar'nt you ??
Hollowpoint
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 12:52 AM UTC
Lee:
Beautiful build and wonderful base -- how did you do those oil drums -- I love the effect of rust on paint!
The weathering powders look good, but I think the base color of your tank is simply too green. It really shows up in the areas where you've weathered lightly, especially the insides of the hatches and on the turret front.. OD has a brownish tone to it and that is not apparent.
But, hey, if you're happy with it, that's all that's important. Color is very subjective and variable on vehicles in combat.
Also, one last nit-pick, where are the pioneer tools and/or their mounting brackets/tie-downs? (Kris: Is this what's giving you that "missing" feeling?)
Beautiful build and wonderful base -- how did you do those oil drums -- I love the effect of rust on paint!
The weathering powders look good, but I think the base color of your tank is simply too green. It really shows up in the areas where you've weathered lightly, especially the insides of the hatches and on the turret front.. OD has a brownish tone to it and that is not apparent.
But, hey, if you're happy with it, that's all that's important. Color is very subjective and variable on vehicles in combat.
Also, one last nit-pick, where are the pioneer tools and/or their mounting brackets/tie-downs? (Kris: Is this what's giving you that "missing" feeling?)
csch
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 12:55 AM UTC
Very nice job. What did you use to make the lenses of the head lights ? Did the DD tanks had headlights ?
Maybe the missing thing is the antena ?
Good job.
Maybe the missing thing is the antena ?
Good job.
brandydoguk
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 01:05 AM UTC
I must say Lee you really are a master builder. As for the "weathering" it may be a tad too much, my first impression is of a tank that has been abandoned on the beach rather than still in use, just my opinion and what do I know? With the figures in place this may give a diferent impression. Like Hollowpoint I would love to know your technique on those barrels, they look really effective.
slodder
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 01:09 AM UTC
The weathering is very good. I like the overall dusty affect.
The green on the inside of the TC hatch is a bit clean. Maybe a hand or helmet smudge here or there. But if I have to go down to the handprint level of critique boy is it a good job.
Love the base.
The green on the inside of the TC hatch is a bit clean. Maybe a hand or helmet smudge here or there. But if I have to go down to the handprint level of critique boy is it a good job.
Love the base.
kglack43
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 01:36 AM UTC
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or maybe the footprint "clean smears" made by the crew as the exited....man...this is fine...unless your as good at figure as you were at this tank, don't even think of adding them. They just might distract from this one.But if I have to go down to the handprint level of critique boy is it a good job.
BroAbrams
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 01:48 AM UTC
Lee, this is amazing, I am glad it's finally done so we can see it. My question is wether or not you are going to put stowage on it. I wouldn't mind seeing a few jerry cans and the aforementioned pioneer tools to spice it up a little, along with an air recognition panel. Othe than that it looks great!
Rob
Rob
crossbow
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 02:05 AM UTC
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1) To me the missing feeling is that there is no crew figure on yet. If the feeling is vehicle related then it WAS the case that these DD shermans had EVERY scrap of on-vehicle equipment removed including all equipment brackets so that nothing would interfere with the raising and lowering of the inflatable screens. THIS is why it looks so bare - AND sorry slaphead there were NO tow ropes either!
BTW all the equipment and stuff was added again at a later date.
It's not exactly that, still can't put a finger on it though, but while on the subject, I would have thought that as soon as the canvas was removed, they would pile all kinds of gear and equipment on it. But then again as I already said I'm no Sherman expert.
Kris
WeWillHold
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 02:14 AM UTC
Twig
To respond to your question - I think this one looks great as is. It captures the look of something that has been wet and then out and about in the dirt and dust a lot. With the weathering, and your use of green shading, the vehicle gives a lot for the eye to look at - a mono tone that is "busy" to look at Well done.
The base is also well conceived and balanced. As mentioned earlier, the oil drums are very authentic looking.
Once the figs are on, this one is a true "keeper". Congrats
Steve
To respond to your question - I think this one looks great as is. It captures the look of something that has been wet and then out and about in the dirt and dust a lot. With the weathering, and your use of green shading, the vehicle gives a lot for the eye to look at - a mono tone that is "busy" to look at
Well done.The base is also well conceived and balanced. As mentioned earlier, the oil drums are very authentic looking.
Once the figs are on, this one is a true "keeper". Congrats
Steve
thebear
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2003 - 09:45 AM UTC
Now that's the way I like em good and dusty ...Tanks are just like those swiffer dusters they attract dust !! Summer months on dirt roads must have been aweful for crews!! Well done!
Rick
Rick
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 02:05 PM UTC
I must say, this tank is beautiful, no, BEAUTIFULY done! I must admit, when I thought of a newbie painting the tiger,and it ended up sloppy, kinda frightened me, but when I saw the first pic in this thread, it reassured me :-) now get back to that russian thingy! :-)
Hollowpoint
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 03:05 AM UTC
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these DD shermans had EVERY scrap of on-vehicle equipment removed including all equipment brackets so that nothing would interfere with the raising and lowering of the inflatable screens.
I'd like to know your reference on this, Lee. I've been collecting info on DD Shermans for a while, with the idea of scratching a conversion. One of the documents I have is a copy of an official stowage diagram for a Sherman V DD. and it defintely has pioneer tools flanking the rear deck. I realize your DD is a Sherman II, but pics of thes vehicles on D-Day and the weeks after suggest to me that they may have also had tools -- I have yet to fo find a definitive photo (most are frontal shots), but there sure is a whole lot of clutter on the decks of these tanks, even the ones with the swimming screens torn off.
Please don't take this as a rip, Lee. I'm simply trying to increase my knowledge of the subject
Major_Goose
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Posted: Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 10:31 PM UTC
I think that what we see its a very beautiful painting and weathering work not only on the tank but on the barrels and the rest of the base. What is missing is trhe human element and all kinds of equipment thrown here and there to give some life. But concerning the paint job its what i like heavy weathered from conditions and believe me i ve seen on documentaries tank's in even much worst condition than this beauty !!
congratulations
congratulations
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