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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 09:19 AM UTC
I am looking for weapons commonly used by insurgent forces in Iraq or most part of the third world. I know AK- 47 is one but there are others I just do not know what particular models are called. There are several models I have seen as MENG have issued a couple which can be mounted on pickups but there is one similiar to that of the SAW and other that I have no idea what they are called. Also, any links or tips to where I can get them, please post it here. Thanks.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 09:26 AM UTC
Have you thought of RPG-7?
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 10:04 AM UTC
PK, PKM. Most people call all PK's PKM's anyway. I"ll post a photo later of one we nabbed/
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 10:58 AM UTC
DML's "AK-47" and "Modern Machine Gun Set" are your best bets. TANK also sells some 1/35 weapons in resin.

* AIM (AK-47 set)
* AK-47 (AK-47 set)
* AKMS carbine (AK-47 set)
* RPK (AK-47 set)
* PKM
* RPG-7
* SVD sniper rifle
* Type 56 (AK-47 set)

DML is said to re-release most of their weapon sets this coming June.

Hope this helps.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 11:00 AM UTC

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Have you thought of RPG-7?



forgot about that. There is one i have seen as a model but do not know where to get it. I will post a pic.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 11:02 AM UTC

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DML's "AK-47" and "Modern Machine Gun Set" are your best bets.

* AIM (AK-47 set)
* AK-47 (AK-47 set)
* AKMS carbine (AK-47 set)
* RPK (AK-47 set)
* PKM
* RPG-7
* SVD sniper rifle
* Type 56 (AK-47 set)

DML is said to re-release most of their weapon sets this coming June.

Hope this helps.



wow! I hope it gets here before the end of june. Need them before a show. Thanks.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 11:02 AM UTC

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Have you thought of RPG-7?



forgot about that. There is one i have seen as a model but do not know where to get it. I will post a pic.



TANK of Russia sells the RPG-7 in 1/35 resin.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 11:04 AM UTC

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Have you thought of RPG-7?



forgot about that. There is one i have seen as a model but do not know where to get it. I will post a pic.



TANK of Russia sells the RPG-7 in 1/35 resin.



Thanks buddy. Mucha appreciated.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 11:09 AM UTC

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DML's "AK-47" and "Modern Machine Gun Set" are your best bets.

* AIM (AK-47 set)
* AK-47 (AK-47 set)
* AKMS carbine (AK-47 set)
* RPK (AK-47 set)
* PKM
* RPG-7
* SVD sniper rifle
* Type 56 (AK-47 set)

DML is said to re-release most of their weapon sets this coming June.

Hope this helps.



wow! I hope it gets here before the end of june. Need them before a show. Thanks.



I'm sure you can find the DML AK-47 set still being sold online. If not, TANK sells practically all the weapons I listed above in resin.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 12:22 PM UTC
Well let's see...
A PK (not PKM) MG, ammo, an RPG-7 with heat and anti-personnel rounds, EID triggers, tubing for pneumatic IED tirgger, a PK MG mount for the Hilux, bags of homemade explosive, some grenades, a cut down AK of some sort, and other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head.

Damn. Forgot to tuck my trousers in again...

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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 01:10 PM UTC

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I am looking for weapons commonly used by insurgent forces in Iraq or most part of the third world.



A guy I know (who posts on here) was in Iraq in 2004 +/- and said that they saw or recovered practically any small arm you could list from 1900 on.

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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 02:35 PM UTC
I was there in 2003. At our weapon collection points, like Kurt Laughlin said, every weapon you could imagine was seen...AK's, M-16's, MP-5's, Kar 98's, everything. It seems they had no uniformity.

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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 08:54 PM UTC
You guys have been a great help. I do appreciate all the efforts my fellow pros. Thank you fir these vital info.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 03:34 AM UTC
Who carries Tank products? There is no price or order info on their site.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 04:32 AM UTC
try http://www.dersockelshop.de/tank/


http://www.modellbau-koenig.de/Filter/Your_search_result_10.htm?n_prod=98&n_sca=1%3a35&n_pg=7&n_dis=0&n_srt=7&n_ipp=25

both are in germany
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 05:09 AM UTC

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I am looking for weapons commonly used by insurgent forces in Iraq or most part of the third world. I know AK- 47 is one but there are others I just do not know what particular models are called. There are several models I have seen as MENG have issued a couple which can be mounted on pickups but there is one similiar to that of the SAW and other that I have no idea what they are called. Also, any links or tips to where I can get them, please post it here. Thanks.



In 2004-2005 timeframe my Bn S2 connex held
AK's (Yugo, Romanian, Russian, Iraqi made)
PPSH-41 Soviet made with drums
Bren guns in .303
P14 rifles
Assorted Mauser rifles, GEW98 and Kar98 and persian/yugo style
G-3's (Shah & Revolutionary)
Yugo SKS with grenade launcher
PKM
RPG-7
Tokarev TT-33's
Browning Hi powers
Webleys
SMLE
No.4 Lee Enfields\

Oh yeah these were interesting

An Austrian M95 straight pull rifle with full length sound suppressor and Walther P-38 bobbed for a can



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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 05:40 AM UTC

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Who carries Tank products? There is no price or order info on their site.



Colorado Miniatures carries TANK in the USA.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 09:39 AM UTC

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In 2004-2005 timeframe my Bn S2 connex held
AK's (Yugo, Romanian, Russian, Iraqi made)
PPSH-41 Soviet made with drums
Bren guns in .303
P14 rifles
Assorted Mauser rifles, GEW98 and Kar98 and persian/yugo style
G-3's (Shah & Revolutionary)
Yugo SKS with grenade launcher
PKM
RPG-7
Tokarev TT-33's
Browning Hi powers
Webleys
SMLE
No.4 Lee Enfields

Oh yeah these were interesting

An Austrian M95 straight pull rifle with full length sound suppressor and Walther P-38 bobbed for a can



That, sir, is quite the ecclectic collection of boom sticks. Interesting, indeed!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 02:04 PM UTC

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I am looking for weapons commonly used by insurgent forces in Iraq or most part of the third world. I know AK- 47 is one but there are others I just do not know what particular models are called. There are several models I have seen as MENG have issued a couple which can be mounted on pickups but there is one similiar to that of the SAW and other that I have no idea what they are called. Also, any links or tips to where I can get them, please post it here. Thanks.



In 2004-2005 timeframe my Bn S2 connex held
AK's (Yugo, Romanian, Russian, Iraqi made)
PPSH-41 Soviet made with drums
Bren guns in .303
P14 rifles
Assorted Mauser rifles, GEW98 and Kar98 and persian/yugo style
G-3's (Shah & Revolutionary)
Yugo SKS with grenade launcher
PKM
RPG-7
Tokarev TT-33's
Browning Hi powers
Webleys
SMLE
No.4 Lee Enfields

Oh yeah these were interesting

An Austrian M95 straight pull rifle with full length sound suppressor and Walther P-38 bobbed for a can







thank you my good man.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 02:05 PM UTC



Appreciate the links. Thanks. I will check them out.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 10:51 PM UTC
Here's a related thread that may be worth looking at

http://www.playinsurgency.com/forums/topic/1097-real-insurgent-weapons-evidence-thread/

H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 01:20 AM UTC
I remember when I was growing up in Beirut during the civil war, between '75 - '82, some of the weird weapons I remember seeing were the US Thompson.. the British Sten with the mag sticking out to the left.. the British Bren gun with the mag on the upper side.. something that looked very much like the German MG 42.. a strange looking Russian anti-vehicle rifle that was taller than me, and I'm 185 cm tall... and a bunch of other weapons that I had never seen before or seen since... anything that fires you'll find it being used to some degree

But of course, anywhere you go, the AK is always the staple weapon

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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 02:34 AM UTC
Something that looks like an MG-42 would be an MG3. I found one in Iraq, but the more "out there" weapons were definitely Afghanistan. ZB-30s, Martini Henry's, even a Maxim. I even took home two three inch muzzle loading cannons from the nineteenth century, found in the same are where my friend found the two FT-17's.
Here's the MG3 in Iraq:

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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 03:12 AM UTC
Thanks for the links and pics. Wonderful support guys. I do appreciate it. This will also be helpful to others here as well.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 07:06 AM UTC
if you're looking for insurgent weapons, legend has some ex-insurgents with weapons. an AK47 w/folded stock and a RPG7
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