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Tusk I stowage
Alpha6
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Posted: Monday, June 16, 2014 - 06:48 PM UTC
Hey Everyone, I'm about 40% done with my Tusk I project and I was wondering if I may ask everyone what kind of stowage a Tusk I vehicle would carry some time during 2006-2008. Thanks again for your help.
Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, June 16, 2014 - 09:42 PM UTC
I guess you can't be wrong with an exhaust deflector on the turret side and a cooler on the top 
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Alpha6
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Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 06:43 PM UTC
Thanks Frenchy; that's a good start. Would backpacks and MRE boxes work too? If I may ask a second question, could I use an M240 from Meng and substitute it for the loader's MG? Thanks again.
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 08:32 PM UTC
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Would backpacks and MRE boxes work too?
I guess so. In fact there are two MRE boxes in the picture above : one behind the spare roadwheel and another one in front of the EAPU.
I'm not sure about Meng M240. It's a M240B and the Abrams loader's MG is usually a M240D (AFAIK) which has some differences :
...But you can found some buttstock-fitted M240 as well
Check out this earlier thread for more info :
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/84795
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grunt136mike
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 05:59 AM UTC
Hi Guys;
The Last pic, is real nice, and should be A Good example too follow for Weathering on Desert Sand Color vehicles. Thanks; Sam & Frenchy.
CHEERS; MIKE.
The Last pic, is real nice, and should be A Good example too follow for Weathering on Desert Sand Color vehicles. Thanks; Sam & Frenchy.
CHEERS; MIKE.
210cav
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 06:17 AM UTC
Mike-- my two cents, if you have it--- pile it on! We always have room for cots, water coolers, packs, helmets, etc..... 
Good luck
DJ
Good luck
DJ
HeavyArty
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 06:44 AM UTC
Not much gear was on them by that time. By '05-'06, we were operating out of FOBs (Forward Operating Bases - base camps) and patrols were usually less that 24 hours. Usually a rucksack or assualt pack (backpack)for each crewman (4), a couple MRE boxes, a couple water boxes, and that is about it.
The vehicles covred in mounds of gear were from the invasion in '03 when we had to carry everything we owned and then some.
The vehicles covred in mounds of gear were from the invasion in '03 when we had to carry everything we owned and then some.
Alpha6
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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 05:44 PM UTC
Sorry for the late reply, but thanks again for all the help and pictures.
@Frenchy: Thanks for the awesome pictures; they really offer a lot of insight. It's not exactly on topic, but would you know how the exhaust deflector works? I was always under the impression that the exhaust comes from the rear of the tank and not the side.
@HeavyArty: Looks like it's MRE boxes, coolers, gas cans and packs for me then. Does the color of the assault packs matter? The reason why I ask is because I wanted to color the packs either OD or black just to break up the monotony of the Desert Sand. Thanks again for your help. =D
@Frenchy: Thanks for the awesome pictures; they really offer a lot of insight. It's not exactly on topic, but would you know how the exhaust deflector works? I was always under the impression that the exhaust comes from the rear of the tank and not the side.
@HeavyArty: Looks like it's MRE boxes, coolers, gas cans and packs for me then. Does the color of the assault packs matter? The reason why I ask is because I wanted to color the packs either OD or black just to break up the monotony of the Desert Sand. Thanks again for your help. =D
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 06:32 PM UTC
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Thanks for the awesome pictures; they really offer a lot of insight. It's not exactly on topic, but would you know how the exhaust deflector works? I was always under the impression that the exhaust comes from the rear of the tank and not the side.
Your impression was right
. Here's a picture showing the deflector in place on an Australian Abrams (from anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com ) :
IIRC, the exhaust deflector was originally developped to be used during M1 to M1 towing operations. The deflector attaches to the engine exhaust grille and directs gases upward to prevent heat damage to the towed vehicle. I guess it can also prevent heat damage to the infantry that often accompanies tanks
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Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, June 20, 2014 - 01:06 AM UTC
Just take a look at Paragraph D here http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/du_ii/du_ii_tabj.htm to see what can happen when there's no deflector...
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Homer0331
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Posted: Friday, June 20, 2014 - 03:48 AM UTC
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Hi Guys;
The Last pic, is real nice, and should be A Good example too follow for Weathering on Desert Sand Color vehicles. Thanks; Sam & Frenchy.
CHEERS; MIKE.
Actually if you look closely that is a NATO tricolored tank underneath all that dust and grime.
armouredcharmer
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2014 - 04:50 AM UTC
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Not much gear was on them by that time. By '05-'06, we were operating out of FOBs (Forward Operating Bases - base camps) and patrols were usually less that 24 hours. Usually a rucksack or assualt pack (backpack)for each crewman (4), a couple MRE boxes, a couple water boxes, and that is about it.
The vehicles covred in mounds of gear were from the invasion in '03 when we had to carry everything we owned and then some.
IIRC,US tankers also stopped carrying the "kitchen sink" when insurgents realised that stowage could destroy a tank, by setting it on fire with a Molotov cocktail !.
Alpha6
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2014 - 05:43 AM UTC
@Homer0331: That's very insightful :]. Do you know if NATO tricolor tanks were used during 2005-8?
@armouredcharmer: By kitchen sink, were you referring to Oakley's Kitchen Sink? Would stashing assault packs in the bustle rack in contrast to hanging them, make any difference? Thanks again for your help.
@armouredcharmer: By kitchen sink, were you referring to Oakley's Kitchen Sink? Would stashing assault packs in the bustle rack in contrast to hanging them, make any difference? Thanks again for your help.
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2014 - 06:22 AM UTC
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Do you know if NATO tricolor tanks were used during 2005-8?
U.S. Army Soldiers attached to Task Force 1-77, 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division rest on their M1A1 Abrams tank waiting to commence an operation at Camp Ramadi, Iraq, Oct. 4, 2007.
Full size
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Homer0331
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2014 - 06:25 AM UTC
I do not know that, but I can say that's probably a US Marine tank. See the bolted down strap on the "manhole" cover in front of the loader's MG? That's part of the mount for the antitank missle defense system used by the Marines. I'd bet that tank is at 29 Palms California in that pic.
Removed by original poster on 06/22/14 - 18:36:41 (GMT).
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2014 - 06:56 AM UTC
More Abrams in NATO camo at FOB Caldwell (2005 ?) :
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Alpha6
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2014 - 12:15 PM UTC
Based on what I have gathered, would it be safe to build a NATO tricolored tank with a few bags hanging from the side and an exhaust deflector?
HeavyArty
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2014 - 02:49 PM UTC
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Based on what I have gathered, would it be safe to build a NATO tricolored tank with a few bags hanging from the side and an exhaust deflector?
Yes, especially if you mark it as one from 1 ID or 1 AD as most of their vehicles are 3-tone NATO camo.
Alpha6
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 07:55 AM UTC
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Quoted TextBased on what I have gathered, would it be safe to build a NATO tricolored tank with a few bags hanging from the side and an exhaust deflector?
Yes, especially if you mark it as one from 1 ID or 1 AD as most of their vehicles are 3-tone NATO camo.
That's perfect, so something like this should be feasible then
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/features/3832
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