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AFV Club: Carpet Laying
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 03:18 PM UTC


An announcement from AFV Club has another Churchill variant on its way to “carpet” the way.

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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 03:48 PM UTC
Sweet!!!!!! Bridgelayer next?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 05:03 PM UTC
Oh, definitely not expecting this. Always assumeed the 'bobbin' would be relegated to resin.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 06:11 PM UTC
Now that's a very nice surprise to wake up to.

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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 06:48 PM UTC
Oh wow who would ever have expected them to do this one? How about an ark and a toad next?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 07:26 PM UTC
Sweet! AFV Club is really pumping those Churchills out. Bridgelayer would also be super, as well as the ark's. I am also hoping for a Mk.VII (regular and Crocodile) from them, it would be nice to have a newly tooled version now. Keep them coming AFV Club! :-)
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 07:35 PM UTC
let me ask an obvious question: where is the carpet?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 10:51 PM UTC

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let me ask an obvious question: where is the carpet?


My question exactly . . .

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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 12:46 AM UTC
Although I'm still on my modern Middle East building, I do find AFV kits to be quite sweet...so, lets see a Churchill ARV as well and I'll buy it!
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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 01:03 AM UTC

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let me ask an obvious question: where is the carpet?


It has already deployed it.

There seems to be no mention of it in the kit description, so it may have to be sourced from an after market vendor or scratch built.

Even without it, it is still a must have for me.
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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 03:25 AM UTC
Very nice indeed and perhaps a 'Crab' flail tank may be a future release?
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Posted: Friday, June 20, 2014 - 05:27 AM UTC

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let me ask an obvious question: where is the carpet?


To me, a more significant question is: where are the wading stacks?
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2014 - 11:30 AM UTC
Sweet I had every intention one day of making one of these by scratching the layer unit. Now AFV Club has made life a lot easier

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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 12:55 AM UTC

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Very nice indeed and perhaps a 'Crab' flail tank may be a future release?


That'd be a toad then.

Wikipeadia...

"Churchill Flail FV3902 or Toad[edit]

A post-war (1950s) mine-clearing flail tank built on a Churchill chassis."

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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 01:38 AM UTC

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let me ask an obvious question: where is the carpet?


To me, a more significant question is: where are the wading stacks?

I agree. Did all (or most of) the Funnies have wading stacks? They're primarily beach assault vehicles, right? I want my funnies as funny as possible!
I'm sure the carpet is best modeled in wood, potentially with actual twigs, if you can find them of a proper and consistent shape, so any attempt in styrene or resin would be tricky to get right.
-Sean H.
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 02:21 AM UTC

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I'm sure the carpet is best modeled in wood, potentially with actual twigs, if you can find them of a proper and consistent shape, so any attempt in styrene or resin would be tricky to get right.
-Sean H.


Actually, I think that you are thinking of a fascine for crossing ditches. I think that the "carpet layer" held a roll of some fabric material that was acually laid down in front of the tank (and over which it drove) in order to keep from bogging in soft sand.

I am definitely a Churchill novice, so perhaps someone else can confirm (I don't want to lead anyone astry through my ignorance).


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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 12:27 PM UTC
Pictures of this vehicle in Churchill Tank part 2 ( Ampersand Pub ) . Its a version of the Carpet Layer that was developed pre Dieppe . The D Day version had steel frame girders supporting the 10 ft drum with a roll of canvas reinforced by wood slats . Still an interesting release , might have to get one .
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 01:16 PM UTC
Yep - needs the carpet surely???
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 08:02 PM UTC

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let me ask an obvious question: where is the carpet?


To me, a more significant question is: where are the wading stacks?

I agree. Did all (or most of) the Funnies have wading stacks? They're primarily beach assault vehicles, right? I want my funnies as funny as possible!
I'm sure the carpet is best modeled in wood, potentially with actual twigs, if you can find them of a proper and consistent shape, so any attempt in styrene or resin would be tricky to get right.
-Sean H.


Gimmie gimmie! I want it NOW! with wading stacks! And the SBG Bridge, and ALL the others!
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 08:50 PM UTC
This one used a reinforced canvas type 'carpet' which rolled out under the tank creating a firm path for following vehicles across soft sand...

http://www.normandiememoire.com/uploads/content/49/gallery/1/large/1.jpg

Fascine carriers, as mentioned correctly above, used a bundle of wood to fill a trench etc (Fascines date back even before WWI when British tanks used them)....



It would have been nice if AFV Club had included wading stacks but they are a pretty simple design so not hard to scratch....



Gary

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