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Hetzer (completed)
WeWillHold
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 12:32 PM UTC
This is Dragon's Early Hetzer built oob with the addition of Friul tracks, a field applied jerry can rack, and a rear fender removed for damage purposes.

This vehicle will now go on a little base along with a couple of figs hiding in ambush, (still working on these however).

This Hetzer is dedicated to Jeff aka Lord Nelson for sending me some replacement idlers and sprockets, plus a set of Friul tracks as a way of helping me out in a tight spot on this build. Thanks Jeff!

The suspension paint job needs improvement. I'd like to be able to dark spot wash the raised areas to make them visually pop, but my washes are seeping/staining into the paint rather than puddling around the raised areas. Dry brushing them in a lighter dunkel or mud also just did not quite look right---suggestions will be appreciated as I can still change this vehicle before its added to the base. The Hetzer is painted with MM acyrl's.

Thanks
Steve









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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 12:41 PM UTC
hehe :-)

Lord Wood....

Looks very cool - I can't get over that paintjob.... As I said before - tell us your secret :-) That looks fabulous!

As far as the lower suspension washes... I have in the past used a "tan" colored pin wash for placing emphasis on details that are on a dark colored background (like Panzer Grey). The light tan color pools at the base of the detail you are trying to bring out - and looks kinda like dried dirt or dust. Try it out on a spare kit before you take it to the beautiful little Hetzer :-)

Later-
Nelson
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 12:43 PM UTC
Well I want to be first and say one Kick Butt Hetzer!!
Nice overall effect!! I like I like!!

I'd like to be able to dark spot wash the raised areas to make them visually pop, but my washes are seeping/staining into the paint rather than puddling around the raised areas.


how long has paint dried never had this problem yet MM acrylic Hmm
never used it is paint totaly dry?
andy007
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 12:51 PM UTC
Streve,
You disappoint me i see no OD on it at all .............suppose at least it is mono tone.
Seriously it looks awesome, This a sign of a great modeler one who is able to excell in both OD and german subjects.
turrettoad13
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 12:57 PM UTC
Steve , as allways one cool little TD there (judging by the snow ) . The right rear mud guard (tm) is a good touch ,maybe a dent back there to go with it ? The 4th pic really makes this kit look good . Just my point of view - did the crew leave off the vech . # s on purpose ? It's your tank your call there . Once you get it on the base with the troops please post a few pics
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 12:57 PM UTC
Nice one Steve. I personally think the hetzer is one of the most boring vehicles from WW2. Its sort of shapeless and too many flat panels. I also think they need a good paint job to carry it off right, also because of the above. You definately have succeded there. Nice change from all the camo´d hetzers. If anybody can do a perfect job on a monotone vehical .... I´ll tell him to give ya a ring #:-) , Ha Ha only joking. You´re the man buddy!
I love the jerry can rack. I read some of the opinions in the previous thread, but if it looks good, its good enough for me.
I know you said you have had some problems with washes but they are not really evident here. All detail comes out well in the photographs. I know you are gonna put it on a base and some mud/dirt/dust lower down will add a lot to it as well!
I dont know what mediums you use but I have not had any problems with washes as I now have used the same method for a few years. I use humbrol paint and/or oils and humbrol enamel thinners only. For overall washes I keep it very thin. I´ll wash again in a few days if it needs it rather than trying too much, too quick. For pin washes I thicken it a bit. I keep a pea size of oil paint beside me while pin-washing (oils are generally better for pin-washes). I use a 5/0 brush. I start with detail thats not as visible. If it runs/spreads I add more oils. I usually start thinner and work up to I get it right. Then keep stirring it up with the brush so Im getting an even mixture. I use a plastic palette and if theres too much paint on the brush I tip it against the side to lose some mixture. I lightly touch the top of each rivet once. For lines I touch one point also and let capillery action do the rest. As the tops get dry brushed, the touch spot is covered. Sorry if this is too much detail ... justtrying to explain what works for me!
Good luck old Chap.
MrRoo
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 01:07 PM UTC
Steve that is very nice. Well done buddy!. My only comment and this is a nitpick really is the Jack and the area it sits on. This Jack would be really heavy and likely to have been dropped in place more then once. Maybe some paint chips etc on the jack and immediate area?
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 01:09 PM UTC
wow, very nice!, I think, though, that the tracks are too shiny, and not enough rust, but, I am judging from the first picture.



Now get back to OD you traitor! #:-)
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 01:13 PM UTC
Lord Monotone,
This is a great hetzer! i love the little beast. i like how you damaged the fender on the back of it. the friuls look great, jeff is a good man lol. it looks as if the jack block needs a wood color to it.. that's my only nit pick other that that it's one awesome monotone paint job and model!
tazz
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 01:13 PM UTC
nicely done . i like the way the paint came out and i also like the jerry cans.
but the road wheels are to clean. they can use some mud or something.
and i like the snow also
animal
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 01:18 PM UTC
Steve, the [aint is serperb. The only thing is the tracks and road wheels. They do look a little too clean. But of course if it just came off the wash rack..... Well done.
Davhowell
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 01:26 PM UTC
Very very Nice Only Thing I see wrong besides what other people mentioned is the Machine Gun Shield ontop. I think it was not bent so close together and wider so it would protect the guy using it I think.

I May be wrong though.

*EDIT*

Just got told in chat its the RC Version doh hehe.I Still think the shield looks close together.

*EDIT*
Okay guess I was wrong hehe. Checked some pics I may just have a bad memory.
SS-74
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2004 - 07:28 PM UTC
Lord WWH!!!

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Simply WOW! I know you can pull off a good mono tone job, but this, man, this is your best work as far as I can say, maybe I am a little biased, because I myself is an exclusive German Armor builder. This is simply fantastic.

The scratch built can holder is nice, and different. The ropes to secure the cans looked naturally sagged.

The tone on this tank is just amazing. I need your trick.

I am sorry, but I can't see anything wrong with it, so no constructive critics of any sort. oh well, it's not a plane, that's as far as I can think.

GREAT WORK! BE PROUD, BE VERY PROUD!
Venom
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Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 12:37 AM UTC
hi
I think it's very nice! wery well done and painted...
The tracks and the wheels are too clean, what do you think to add more rust?
I can't see in these photos but I suggest always to add a little bit of black near the gun hole!
congrats!
cheers
WeWillHold
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Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 04:04 AM UTC
Thanks for the replys/comments regarding this Hetzer.

I agree, some darkening around the muzzle tube is needed, and the suspension needs some dirtying up. Thanks.

Frank---thanks for the pin wash description-- very very concise.

The pics have made the tracks look pretty shiney, but in reality the 4th pic (kind of the front quarter view) - shows them more accurately. The teeth have a touch of steel highlight, but otherwise show the results of Blacken-It on Friuls.

I appreciate the help as I will try to improve the Hetzer before it's built into the ambush scene.

Steve

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Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 05:45 AM UTC
I do have a suggestion.
try something in multicolors.
Seriously,could you make the track jack block a darker/wood color?But leave the mountings for it the vehicle color.
As for washes,I like using watercolors,very easy to apply,and they can be made "wet" to really flow.And since I use enamels,there isnt any conflicts with one washing off the base coat.
I like that overall effect on the front plate at the top,good wash there.

Now,


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thebear
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Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 07:30 AM UTC
Hey Steve...Glad to see you got your tracks and idler ...you really did a bang up job on this baby...Now how am I going to be able to show mine off .. just finished mine this weekend and should have pics this week ...You did a great job on the paint love the faded panels !!
Now one thing that bugs me a bit (and I do mean a tiny little weany bit )is you could clean up the black paint in the drivers vision slits..it just looks a little uneven...maybe paint the periscope black just for contrast but I have seen them both dark yellow or left black..your choice on that one.
Great Job!!

Rick
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Posted: Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 03:08 PM UTC
Fantastic work !! Your paint job is absolutely flawless. From the photos, it looks like the Hetzer had whitewash camo ar one point, and that looks very convincing. Even if it was never intended, it looks very cool. I will say your Jerrycan rack came out fine. I really like the rusting (from heat) effect you have on the muffler and its heat shield.

This is a show winner !! Keep up the great work !!!

Cheers !!!

Robert
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Posted: Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 06:12 PM UTC
i believe that you have done a nice job there. The painting is absolutely nice and the weathering also. No more to say than i would dirty a lil more the road wheels end blacken the end of the gun
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Posted: Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 06:44 PM UTC
good paintwork.I like the exhaust and ventilation grills.I know you will do the weathering others mentioned as you build the dio.
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