I want to add a model of a M113AS4 APC to my collection and have had a look at some walk arounds and the examples on the army website
http://www.army.gov.au/~/media/Files/Our%20work/Equipment%20and%20clothing/Vehicles/Fact%20Sheet%20-%20M113.pdf
I See that Tamiya does a M113A2, which the general body shape is right, but its missing the turret and a few other minor things. Is there a better kit out there. Does anyone do modern decals or will I have to make do with the Echelon Abrams ones which look pretty similar with a few notable exceptions. Ideas and suggestions please.
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What's available to model a modern AustralianM113AS4 AP
DesTROYer8564
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Posted: Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 05:13 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 05:35 AM UTC
Hi Troy, it's not an easy one. You'll either need a couple of Tamiya M113A2's and some hard work with a razor saw as the ADF M113AS4 has the extra wheel. Alternatively there's the Perfect Scale Modellbau Danish version which adds the extra wheel and extended box. At a price.
http://www.perfect-scale.de/Conversion-Kits-1---35/M113-G3-EXT.html
The turret is even tougher. It's an Australian made Tenix I believe. Closest available is probably the Best Value Models Canadian TLAV - but quite different in the angles for a start.
http://www.armorama.co.uk/review/3014
Hope this helps.
http://www.perfect-scale.de/Conversion-Kits-1---35/M113-G3-EXT.html
The turret is even tougher. It's an Australian made Tenix I believe. Closest available is probably the Best Value Models Canadian TLAV - but quite different in the angles for a start.
http://www.armorama.co.uk/review/3014
Hope this helps.
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Posted: Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 01:39 PM UTC
Thanks. I've since been told there is rumour of a new M113AS4 kit coming out in 2015. Might wait and see what happens.
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Posted: Sunday, December 28, 2014 - 01:26 PM UTC
An accurate off the shelf model of this kit is unlikely.
Best to hope for is an aftermarket conversion set or sets. However these take a very long time to develop / test cast/ market etc. Take the Bushmaster PMV kit corrections, an accurate fix is still not available and that kit was released some 4 years ago! I would suggest even if a kit manufacturer built one, such as Trumpeter, there would be too many inaccuracies (see their ASLAV and variants) for a serious build. The usual aftermarket companies would drop update sets but rarely are they accurate (Eduard, etc etc)and a local manufacturer such as Mouse House or Arms Corps Models would be worth waiting for. Their products are superior to all others and usually more accurate than the modeler knows what to do with all that detail! If you want the AS4 then be patient, or scratch build your own. I'm too lazy and time poor to scratch build anymore, but I am quite patient!
Adamski
PS Arms Corps Models are definitely worth the wait! The QUality always exceeds expectation.
Best to hope for is an aftermarket conversion set or sets. However these take a very long time to develop / test cast/ market etc. Take the Bushmaster PMV kit corrections, an accurate fix is still not available and that kit was released some 4 years ago! I would suggest even if a kit manufacturer built one, such as Trumpeter, there would be too many inaccuracies (see their ASLAV and variants) for a serious build. The usual aftermarket companies would drop update sets but rarely are they accurate (Eduard, etc etc)and a local manufacturer such as Mouse House or Arms Corps Models would be worth waiting for. Their products are superior to all others and usually more accurate than the modeler knows what to do with all that detail! If you want the AS4 then be patient, or scratch build your own. I'm too lazy and time poor to scratch build anymore, but I am quite patient!
Adamski
PS Arms Corps Models are definitely worth the wait! The QUality always exceeds expectation.
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Austmouse
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - 03:20 AM UTC
Hi there
The Mouse House Team is currently working on the complete resin / PE kit of an M113AS4 APC hopefully to be released later this year.
So far we have the basic hull and turret done. The new drive sprocket and T150F track links are ready for casting. The rear fuel tank just needs detailing. Having said that, there are an endless array of smaller detail bits that still have to be created.
The hardest part was the front headlight cluster brush guard. In the end we had that drawn and the master 3D printed.
If you are interested in purchasing the model in due course please register your interest by sending your name to [email protected].
Mouse House Team
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The Mouse House Team is currently working on the complete resin / PE kit of an M113AS4 APC hopefully to be released later this year.
So far we have the basic hull and turret done. The new drive sprocket and T150F track links are ready for casting. The rear fuel tank just needs detailing. Having said that, there are an endless array of smaller detail bits that still have to be created.
The hardest part was the front headlight cluster brush guard. In the end we had that drawn and the master 3D printed.
If you are interested in purchasing the model in due course please register your interest by sending your name to [email protected].
Mouse House Team
Brought to you by the letters J –T -M
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - 06:27 PM UTC
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I noticed when I registered my interest ...
/ Robin
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I noticed when I registered my interest ...
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - 07:45 PM UTC
The version I'm really waiting for is the "Tilly" variant.
Any plans on releasing that one as a conversion?
Cheers,
Christophe
Any plans on releasing that one as a conversion?
Cheers,
Christophe
Austmouse
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - 02:08 AM UTC
Christophe
The ALV that you show is the prototype. The wheel spacing is different on the production version.
Register your interest below
[email protected]
JM
The ALV that you show is the prototype. The wheel spacing is different on the production version.
Register your interest below
[email protected]
JM
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 12:31 AM UTC
Getting many pre orders boys?!
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 07:04 PM UTC
Quoted Text
The version I'm really waiting for is the "Tilly" variant.
Any plans on releasing that one as a conversion?
Cheers,
Christophe
Christophe, as mentioned that pic is of the development/prototype ALV (Armoured Logistics Vehicle). The in service ALV has a stretched wheel base.
I built one a few years ago before development was finalised. I use a Tamiya A Cav kit and lots of styrene, the extra wheels came from a friend and the tracks are from HK Creation Workshop, but they represent a Diel design link, not the same as the AS4 fitted UDLP T-150 tracks. Not exactly right but are about the only current option you have, but I would hold out for what Mouse House is working on, it's spot on and coming fairly soon I believe.
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C_JACQUEMONT
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 08:06 PM UTC
Thanks! It's a great looking model of a great looking variant.
I think another country came up with a similar concept, can't remember which one right now...
Cheers,
Christophe
I think another country came up with a similar concept, can't remember which one right now...
Cheers,
Christophe
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 09:21 PM UTC
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Quoted TextThe version I'm really waiting for is the "Tilly" variant.
Any plans on releasing that one as a conversion?
Cheers,
Christophe
Christophe, as mentioned that pic is of the development/prototype ALV (Armoured Logistics Vehicle). The in service ALV has a stretched wheel base.
I built one a few years ago before development was finalised. I use a Tamiya A Cav kit and lots of styrene, the extra wheels came from a friend and the tracks are from HK Creation Workshop, but they represent a Diel design link, not the same as the AS4 fitted UDLP T-150 tracks. Not exactly right but are about the only current option you have, but I would hold out for what Mouse House is working on, it's spot on and coming fairly soon I believe.
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This vehicle has so many modular possibilities that scream to be manufactured (in plastic too: i.e., ambulance, cargo hauler, workshop, SPG, missile/rocket launcher, etc)!
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 09:28 PM UTC
Austmouse
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2015 - 10:24 AM UTC
No there has been very little interest. A very small number have expressed interest in the new kit.
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2015 - 10:35 AM UTC
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No there has been very little interest. A very small number have expressed interest in the new kit.
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2015 - 03:06 PM UTC
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Quoted TextNo there has been very little interest. A very small number have expressed interest in the new kit.
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I'd be keen for one,..... depending on price!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 - 12:49 AM UTC
I would also be interested in one!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 - 04:24 AM UTC
I'd be very interested in getting one, even more so if there was the M113AS4AF variant or better still, the M806AS4 ARVL. It'd sit along side the ASLAV-R and M88A2 nicely
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 - 08:18 AM UTC
The plan is to do most of not all variants.
After the APC then it will be the ACV/Ambo, the ARVL, Fitter and possibly ALV.
Getting reference material is difficult except at open days and even then you can get a stroppy Sgt that basically says go away.
So if there is anyone out there that can help without getting into trouble, great, contact us and we will look after you when the kits comes out.
J
After the APC then it will be the ACV/Ambo, the ARVL, Fitter and possibly ALV.
Getting reference material is difficult except at open days and even then you can get a stroppy Sgt that basically says go away.
So if there is anyone out there that can help without getting into trouble, great, contact us and we will look after you when the kits comes out.
J
rwaldram
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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 04:26 AM UTC
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So if there is anyone out there that can help without getting into trouble, great, contact us and we will look after you when the kits comes out.
J
I wish I'd seen that offer last year having been with a Mech Inf unit then an ACR... I'm out of trade now so wont be around anything interesting for the next couple of years.
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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 08:52 AM UTC
Expression of interest sent.
You need to advertise this on your site, I'm a regular visitor and have seen nothing.
You need to advertise this on your site, I'm a regular visitor and have seen nothing.