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CCKW + Piper L-4 Combo
165thspc
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 06:59 PM UTC
Been enamored for some time by both the hard cab CCKW and the Piper L-4. Finding these reference photos has pushed me over the top. Now I HAVE to build this combo
165thspc
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 07:05 PM UTC
I started with a stock Tamiya LWB CCKW:
Up to this point I have more or less built this vehicle OOB however I have omitted the open cab, open cab floorboard, cab back wall and I have cut off the open cab sidewalls that were attached to the engine cowl.
Up to this point I have more or less built this vehicle OOB however I have omitted the open cab, open cab floorboard, cab back wall and I have cut off the open cab sidewalls that were attached to the engine cowl.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 07:10 PM UTC
Whenever I can pick up an Italeri CCKW closed cab water tanker on the cheap I do so. The hard cab is close to excellent and unlike other manufacture's kits this cab is in the correct proportions.
So from the Italeri kit I picked up the floor board, cab back wall, seats and cab roof/windshield/hood molding.
The front edge of the floorboard will require some slight modification to fit into the Tamiya firewall. Also the dash board will need to be narrowed just slightly to fit into the Tamiya cowl.
So from the Italeri kit I picked up the floor board, cab back wall, seats and cab roof/windshield/hood molding.
The front edge of the floorboard will require some slight modification to fit into the Tamiya firewall. Also the dash board will need to be narrowed just slightly to fit into the Tamiya cowl.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 07:16 PM UTC
As you can see, the Italeri hard cab is nearly a drop in substitution for the Tamiya product.
In this photo the closed cab combo is only dry fitted to the Tamiya chassis.
In this photo the closed cab combo is only dry fitted to the Tamiya chassis.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 07:23 PM UTC
In another thread John Hale took a slightly different course by substituting the entire Italeri cab for the HobbyBoss product.
The only modification required to the stock Italeri cab/fender combo is to cut out the cast in place engine oil pan of the Italeri part to make clearance for the full engine offered by HobbyBoss.
This is a very clean build on John's part!
Photo and model by John Hale
p.s. I think next time I am going to go this route and use the entire Italeri cab.
The only modification required to the stock Italeri cab/fender combo is to cut out the cast in place engine oil pan of the Italeri part to make clearance for the full engine offered by HobbyBoss.
This is a very clean build on John's part!
Photo and model by John Hale
p.s. I think next time I am going to go this route and use the entire Italeri cab.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 07:26 PM UTC
And now it is time to start working in the Piper L-4:
165thspc
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 07:28 PM UTC
I felt I needed more research info on exactly what the framing should look like on the L-4 when the wings are removed:
(All restoration photos for discussion purposes only.)
(All restoration photos for discussion purposes only.)
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 02:49 AM UTC
Some additional cockpit reference photos: (For discussion purposes only.)
Both photos; Richard Adcock/Airplane-Pictures.net
Both photos; Richard Adcock/Airplane-Pictures.net
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 07:08 PM UTC
Three more original reference photos:
From the collection of Henri-Pierre
From the collection of Henri-Pierre
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 07:22 PM UTC
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From the collection of Henri-Pierre
You're welcome Mike, but these are not mine, I've just found them recently on the Web
H.P.
backswampcub
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 08:00 PM UTC
This was obviously a not common cargo for these guys as they posed for a photo as proof to show people
MikeyBugs95
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 08:18 PM UTC
What brand is the L-4? Bronco? I'm just about finishing up a 1/48 Piper L-4 for the Operation Market Garden campaign.
165thspc
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 08:28 PM UTC
Sorry I guess I should have defined where the 1/35th scale Piper was coming from:
165thspc
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 08:36 PM UTC
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This was obviously a not common cargo for these guys as they posed for a photo as proof to show people
I imagine it was more an unlikely cargo for the photographer. The photogs were always looking for something a bit unusual to document.
Giovanni1508
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 09:12 PM UTC
Hi Michael,
Very nice project. Definitely, the 1/35th scale Piper is already a nice build if alone. On the truck is really awesome.
Great idea. Go ahead...
Cheers
Giovanni
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 09:25 PM UTC
What about a rear view for a change (I'm not sure this one is a L-4 though...) ?
2 more period pics here (I guess the plane is an earlier J3)
Looks like other vehicles could be used as well (Korean War picture) :
I'll post the last one in the other related thread if you prefer
Some interesting L-4 markings here (if needed ) :
http://ww2liaisonaircrafts.e-monsite.com/pages/piper-j-3-l-4.html
H.P.
2 more period pics here (I guess the plane is an earlier J3)
Looks like other vehicles could be used as well (Korean War picture) :
I'll post the last one in the other related thread if you prefer
Some interesting L-4 markings here (if needed
) :http://ww2liaisonaircrafts.e-monsite.com/pages/piper-j-3-l-4.html
H.P.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 06:30 AM UTC
Some progress accomplished: - the truck is nearly done though the cab is being a bit fiddly. (My fault)
Working on the cockpit of the L-4 and dreading how I am going to paint the ribs on the window glass.
Working on the cockpit of the L-4 and dreading how I am going to paint the ribs on the window glass.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 06:34 AM UTC
A couple of added details that may never be seen again:
Quilted headliner for the cab.
And scribed Evergreen plastic as a rubber floormat.
Quilted headliner for the cab.
And scribed Evergreen plastic as a rubber floormat.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 09:01 PM UTC
Perhaps more Piper pictures than you ever wanted to see:
Lowell, IN reenactment 2009
Lowell, IN reenactment 2009
Still flyable WWII L-4 at Kentucky Aviation Museum, Bluegrass Field, Lexington, KY. 2014
All photos Mike Koenig
Lowell, IN reenactment 2009
Lowell, IN reenactment 2009
Still flyable WWII L-4 at Kentucky Aviation Museum, Bluegrass Field, Lexington, KY. 2014
All photos Mike Koenig
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 05:41 PM UTC
Someone beat me to the punch with a beautifully rendered CCKW with Piper load!
(Modeler Unknown)
Beautifully done!
Not sure you would ever see a Piper in D-Day striping loaded this way as these aircraft were being brought to France post D-Day. However it certainly makes for a more interesting model!
(Modeler Unknown)
Beautifully done!
Not sure you would ever see a Piper in D-Day striping loaded this way as these aircraft were being brought to France post D-Day. However it certainly makes for a more interesting model!
jon_a_its
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 08:17 PM UTC
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Someone beat me to the punch with a beautifully rendered CCKW with Piper load!
Beautifully done!
Not sure you would ever see a Piper in D-Day striping loaded this way as these aircraft were being brought to France post D-Day. However it certainly makes for a more interesting model!
Nice work, Stripes could be possible, as full stripes were worn for a while, until August for some aircraft.
AOP's like the Piper did have the top stripes removed pretty rapidly after mid-June for camo reasons though.
Gotrek58
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 09:47 PM UTC
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Someone beat me to the punch with a beautifully rendered CCKW with Piper load!
(Modeler Unknown)
That model is made by Heavensgate from my german forum:
http://www.modellboard.net/index.php?topic=48450.45
Michael
165thspc
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2015 - 02:40 AM UTC
Danke Michael für das helfen uns Ehre, wem Ehre gebührt. Hervorragende Arbeit Heavensgate!
Giving credit where credit is due!
Giving credit where credit is due!
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Friday, October 20, 2017 - 11:11 PM UTC
- BUMP -
No further progress on my model as I have been distracted into building a 1/35th scale German Storch.
No further progress on my model as I have been distracted into building a 1/35th scale German Storch.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 07:03 PM UTC
Does anyone have any good photo reference on what the wing stem structure looks like on the Piper when the wing is removed from the aircraft? I seem to find quite a few photos of the canopy structure, wings removed but little/nothing on what the wing base itself looks like.
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