Hi Gang,
just stumbled across a news report that the police discovered a WWII tank in the cellar of a villa in northern Germany. According to unconfirmed rumors the vehicle is "2 Meter 20 wide and 5 Meter long" and might be a Panzerkampfwagen V Panther.
http://www.welt.de/regionales/hamburg/article143408616/Weltkriegs-Panzer-in-Wohnhauskeller-gefunden.html
Would be a kind of a sensation if another German WWII vehicle survived the war, especially in Germany.
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HermannB

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 08:11 PM UTC

HermannB

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 08:44 PM UTC
Here a short translation:
World War tank found in the cellar of a house.
Bundeswehr and local police went to house in northern Germany to confiscate a tank. on this occasion they discoverd more arms.
Unreal scenes in a high society quarter in Heikendorf near Kiel.
Police officers block the street, Bundeswehr came with two SLT 56 and armored recovery vehicles (better said Pionierpanzer Dachs). The attorney of Kiel investigates in a case of illegal
arms possesion. Local man Holger Steen saw the tank in person.
He told that the 2,20 m wide and 5 meter long vehicle was used to tear out trees about 20 years ago. several other people confirmed the existence of the tank.
The lawyer of the man in his late 70`s said that there is a tank in the house, but it is demiltarized, means it does not fire rounds.
The investigatores confirmed a massive collection of arms, even a Torpoedo shall be among them.
The entire story reminds a little bit to James Garners movie
"Tank"
World War tank found in the cellar of a house.
Bundeswehr and local police went to house in northern Germany to confiscate a tank. on this occasion they discoverd more arms.
Unreal scenes in a high society quarter in Heikendorf near Kiel.
Police officers block the street, Bundeswehr came with two SLT 56 and armored recovery vehicles (better said Pionierpanzer Dachs). The attorney of Kiel investigates in a case of illegal
arms possesion. Local man Holger Steen saw the tank in person.
He told that the 2,20 m wide and 5 meter long vehicle was used to tear out trees about 20 years ago. several other people confirmed the existence of the tank.
The lawyer of the man in his late 70`s said that there is a tank in the house, but it is demiltarized, means it does not fire rounds.
The investigatores confirmed a massive collection of arms, even a Torpoedo shall be among them.
The entire story reminds a little bit to James Garners movie
"Tank"

brekinapez

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:05 PM UTC
That's not a Panther on the back of that trailer.
Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:07 PM UTC
Why don't I have such cool neighbours


Bonaparte84

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:25 PM UTC
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That's not a Panther on the back of that trailer.
It says in the article that the Bundeswehr showed up with ARVs to help with the Panther...
I hope we get pictures of the actual Panther soon.

HermannB

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:33 PM UTC
TV news confirmed the existence of a Type 7 torpedo, enough explosives to level the entire house.
News ssaid also the the tank has no tracks, the recovery operation will start tomorrow. The Dachs AEV comes from the nearby Kaserne in Plön, enough power to recover a 40 ton Panther.

News ssaid also the the tank has no tracks, the recovery operation will start tomorrow. The Dachs AEV comes from the nearby Kaserne in Plön, enough power to recover a 40 ton Panther.

HermannB

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:39 PM UTC
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Why don't I have such cool neighbours![]()
You have simply move to Kiel!




HermannB

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:45 PM UTC
Panther was normally 3,4 meter wide, so maybe it´s something smaller?

griffontech

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:28 PM UTC
It's a leopard 1 ARV

HermannB

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:35 PM UTC
No, Pionierpanzer DACHS or Badger for Canadians.

Giovanni1508

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 11:49 PM UTC
Hi guys,
So, understood it is not a Panther
It would be great to discover a german panzer survived the war.
Anyway, better than nothing. Go ahead searching, maybe something more will come out...
Cheers
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No, Pionierpanzer DACHS or Badger for Canadians.
So, understood it is not a Panther

It would be great to discover a german panzer survived the war.
Anyway, better than nothing. Go ahead searching, maybe something more will come out...
Cheers

flugwuzzi

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 11:52 PM UTC

jwest21

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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 11:55 PM UTC
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Hi guys,Quoted TextNo, Pionierpanzer DACHS or Badger for Canadians.
So, understood it is not a Panther![]()
It would be great to discover a german panzer survived the war.
Anyway, better than nothing. Go ahead searching, maybe something more will come out...
Cheers
No, he is referring to the vehicle in the picture, which showed up to help remove the Panther. He doesn't mean the actual found tank.

zvezdah1

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 12:43 AM UTC
that's got to be worth in the 7 figure $$ range. Wonder what happened to the treads? How on earth did he get it in the cellar?

jwest21

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 12:50 AM UTC
OK, here's a question- is that the original Dunkelgelb? Commence discussion/argument

srmalloy

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 01:19 AM UTC
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some images ...
http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/Erfolgreich-Kampfpanzer-aus-Villa-geborgen,munitionsfund124.html
Looking at the first picture, it looks as if there's something wrong with the back few torsion bars, with the idler wheel at the same level as the road wheels. The position of the suspension looks a lot like this destroyed Panther.

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 02:04 AM UTC
I am thrilled a previously unknown Panther G has just been found and the exterior at least looks in stunning condition.
This Panther must have an interesting history
Many Thanks to the German Police, hopefully on way to a Museum soon
This Panther must have an interesting history
Many Thanks to the German Police, hopefully on way to a Museum soon

LikesTanks

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 02:17 AM UTC
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OK, here's a question- is that the original Dunkelgelb? Commence discussion/argument
It says he bought it in scrap condition, so this looks like a restoration and so a re-spray

simonking

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 02:39 AM UTC
Suggest you look at the surviving panzers website. It's well known but not seen for some years. One of the Panthers built by REME after the war and subsequently found in a Surrey scrapyard with the gun barrel lying underneath it. The story was in an early edition of After the Battle.
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cheswickthecat

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 03:03 AM UTC
The police report that mentioned them having "to confiscate a tank" must be one of the most unique entries ever made!


AFVFan

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 03:22 AM UTC
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Looking at the first picture, it looks as if there's something wrong with the back few torsion bars, with the idler wheel at the same level as the road wheels. ....
I'm sure, after 70 years, the torsion bars are shot.
As it's a demil, I wonder if the guy is going to get any compensation for it. As someone else mentioned, that's an expensive hunk of steel they're taking from him.

Motives

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 11:50 AM UTC
assuming the tank is not in operational order the confiscation part surely rests on pretty shaky legal ground eh?

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 04:52 PM UTC
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Quoted TextWhy don't I have such cool neighbours![]()
You have simply move to Kiel!![]()
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ERM.... WITH ENOUGH EXPLOSIVES to LEVEL the house, and yours as well presumably...


jon_a_its

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 04:53 PM UTC
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Looking at the first picture, it looks as if there's something wrong with the back few torsion bars, with the idler wheel at the same level as the road wheels. ....
what pictures, please link!

HermannB

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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 05:23 PM UTC
See here???
http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/Erfolgreich-Kampfpanzer-aus-Villa-geborgen,munitionsfund124.html
Hmmm... Maybe this guys took preparetions fro another invasion from the east??
http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/Erfolgreich-Kampfpanzer-aus-Villa-geborgen,munitionsfund124.html
Hmmm... Maybe this guys took preparetions fro another invasion from the east??


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