Hi all, for a long time I was decal and finish type of guy. Then the more I got back into modelling the more I wanted to try more advanced finishes.

I have tried a few times over the last couple of years but with no real success with doing washes. So I am now tempted to try and use some of the newer products on the market as opposed to more traditional oil wash to see if that works better for me until I get a better or at least more experience handle on things.

So any experience or advice would be great before I order some of these products (No dedicated model/hobby shop within 150K's so limited to internet orders which I have been lax to do with non kit items until now).

Also any advice on weathering powders as well. Have had some success with using pastels but colour range is kinda limited in my area.

Hi,
The point with these products is that you can see how thin they are and colours used so once you master them you can start experimenting on your own with oils or enamels, so go ahead and get a few bottles from your favourite brand.

As for pigments, I would say they are quite different from pastels, so absolutely recommendable to get them. A few shades of brown, black and steel should be enough to start.

Good luck and post photos of your results!

Some useful videos on YouTube to help you get started.. and if you do a search you'll find a lot more on YouTube and a lot of very helpful tutorials.

Good luck
Hisham

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/239160&page=1

Check out this video. It walks you through using all of Ammo of Mig products, which are very easy to use. I recommend Ammo of Mig for consistency and usefulness.

Vallejo has come out with some cheap pigment powder line....cheaper then Mig etc.. Vallejo also have cheap washes .They are Acrylic however. Mig washes are enamel & need to be thinned in my opinion.
Master modellers finish their builds in several "layers". Drying time becomes very important between layers. Keeping track of each layer is important...ie enamel primer-> acrylic base-> acylic camo-> clear coat -> decals-> matt coat-> enamel washes-> acrylic chipping paint->matt coat-> pigments-> etc...etc...
That is only an example..there are several ways but keep track because if you put enamel washes over enamel camo coat..it will start to lift your paint..mess it up...
Mig has some good vids online.

Here's a link to Ammo of MIG's YouTube Channel .. you'll find a bunch of videos here.

Hisham

Thankyou all for the reply's and information, armed with this off to do some research and ordering

Artists oils, or 502 abteilung paints, can be thinned with artist grade turpentine and work great for washes. You should also look at Wilder pigments and washes

initially I was using mig pigments but Vallejo pigments are by far cheaper per weight. Now I'm trying to move from pre-made washes and filters and started stocking up on abteilung oils but I haven't gone into it just yet

And here is a how-to article by one of the icons of weathering and 'artistic license' line of modelling who has a range of his own brand weathering products as well:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/1221

Fully concur.
There is nothing in those "magic" products except marketing tricks! You can achieve the same results with way cheaper materials available in artist's shop.

Olivier