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Dragon: M60A2 StarshipPosted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 12:05 AM UTC
Dragon Models is releasing an M60A2 Starship as a smart kit in 1/35th scale.
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 12:37 AM UTC
Let's hope that:
a) it isn't vapour-ware, and
b) they add some DS "canvas" covers for the main gun and the TC cupola!
Could be a real contender, especially if they also add all the foundry marks that Academy forgot...
a) it isn't vapour-ware, and
b) they add some DS "canvas" covers for the main gun and the TC cupola!
Could be a real contender, especially if they also add all the foundry marks that Academy forgot...
bill_c
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 01:36 AM UTC
While not my cup of tea, I'm glad to see DML doing other topics besides German WW2.
GTDeath13
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 06:24 AM UTC
That is nice. But someone better inform them that the part they call exhaust muffler is actually an air cleaner/filter.
TankCarl
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 06:26 AM UTC
I have the Academy and have built a Tamiya,I can't wait to build this side by side with the Academy.
But
Looking at the CAD of the gunner's hatch,I think they got that very wrong, where the hinge to hatch is. And the sight housing looks wrong,I will know more whan I get actual plastic in my hands.
Gunner C-23,Co.C,1 Bn 37th Armor,1975-78
But
Looking at the CAD of the gunner's hatch,I think they got that very wrong, where the hinge to hatch is. And the sight housing looks wrong,I will know more whan I get actual plastic in my hands.
Gunner C-23,Co.C,1 Bn 37th Armor,1975-78
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 07:41 AM UTC
Yay! Not Black Label!
Petition2God
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 09:06 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Let's hope that:
a) it isn't vapour-ware, and
b) they add some DS "canvas" covers for the main gun and the TC cupola!
Could be a real contender, especially if they also add all the foundry marks that Academy forgot...
I am not seeing canvas covers for the main gun or the TC cupola in the CAD images.
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 03:31 PM UTC
Quoted Text
While not my cup of tea, I'm glad to see DML doing other topics besides German WW2.
HEAR, HEAR!!!
Now, let's wait and see if DRAGON's M60A2 matches up to AFV CLUB's, though I fear that AFV CLUB will make us wait, and wait, and wait, in lieu of more German WWII stuff...
lokispeed1
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 09:42 PM UTC
I wonder if commander copula periscopes will be clear or one part with rest?
m75
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 09:48 PM UTC
Is there an AM provider for the commander's .50 cal barrel, the one with the "fluted" flash suppressor? All of the kit versions only have what appears to be a cone on the end of the barrel, as it's otherwise impossible to render in injected-molded plastic.
system
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 10:09 PM UTC
Quoted Text
That is nice. But someone better inform them that the part they call exhaust muffler is actually an air cleaner/filter.
Was that style of air cleaner used on the M60A2?
Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 10:53 PM UTC
Hmm. That's the armoured top-loader, a late addition to the M60. Most of the A2 pics I've seen have the earlier aluminium unarmoured top-loader, but I think I've seen a few with the side-loader too. Certainly none of the A2s I can recall had that late top-loader. Let's hope DML catches this before cutting any tooling.
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Posted: Monday, January 04, 2016 - 11:18 PM UTC
I was trained on the M60A1 and A2 back in 1975 at Knox and ended up in a M551 in the 2nd Cavalry in Germany. I have waited for a long time for Dragon to produce a version of both vehicles that would be of a quality of the German offerings. I'm hoping a Sheridan gets the attention from
Posted: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 04:47 AM UTC
The AFV Club will be worth the wait.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 06:03 AM UTC
Ed,The service A2s had top loading aircleaners.The earliest ones did not have that lower armored strip.Later, they would gain the small indicator for the condition of the filter inside,located near the forward edge. On my thank, the top surface was flat, and only had a small bevel, towards the turret ring side.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 07:35 AM UTC
Sure, never fails, right after I buy the Tamiya
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Posted: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 06:22 PM UTC
Quoted Text
The AFV Club will be worth the wait.
It will.
system
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Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 - 12:36 AM UTC
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Ed,The service A2s had top loading aircleaners.The earliest ones did not have that lower armored strip.Later, they would gain the small indicator for the condition of the filter inside,located near the forward edge. On my thank, the top surface was flat, and only had a small bevel, towards the turret ring side.
Thanks for the info Carl - that's what I meant. The pictures of M60A2s I've seen show the air cleaners with a flat top surface rather than the kind with the sloped front. So just curious whether anyone has pictures of an A2 with the pattern Dragon shows.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 - 12:39 AM UTC
I crewed the A2 when I was in the Army. I've been waiting for this kit. The tamiya kit has/is lacking. I will place my order ASAP.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 - 12:46 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextLet's hope that:
a) it isn't vapour-ware, and
b) they add some DS "canvas" covers for the main gun and the TC cupola!
Could be a real contender, especially if they also add all the foundry marks that Academy forgot...
I am not seeing canvas covers for the main gun or the TC cupola in the CAD images.
Good point, and, BTW the material was not actually canvas, but a rubberized stressed fabric that appeared to me to be synthetic. Unpainted it had a lime green color. That being said, it was relatively durable and held cammo paint well considering the wear and tear factor.
The searchlight cover and coax port cover were canvas however.
Here is me and my A2 in the field ...Hohenfels FRG circa 1978
You can see in the second pic that we had been supplied with later revision track (replaceable pads). SO, a later representation A2 would be correct in having either type. I really like the AFV club offering and will probably use it in my build.
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 04:02 AM UTC
I missed the A2 by couple of years; I am a 19D so in a CAV unit i trained on both m113's and M60A3. I took a Tamiya kit and after a lot of research and brass, I made the correction to make an A2. The CBSS bulge on the rear was the real hard part. Cant wait to build the Academy kit.
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 10:16 PM UTC
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I missed the A2 by couple of years; I am a 19D so in a CAV unit i trained on both m113's and M60A3. I took a Tamiya kit and after a lot of research and brass, I made the correction to make an A2. The CBSS bulge on the rear was the real hard part. Cant wait to build the Academy kit.
The kit is Dragon, I was referring to the AFV club aftermarket indie track.