Step nine B:
Here is this wonderful 21 piece Workable Breach It looks like K42 and K62 are ment to be workable too, but I was not easily able to figure out exactly how. And gluing it in a certain position left the Gun Plug still able to move.
~Cheers
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The_musings_of_NBNoG
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 12:48 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 12:51 PM UTC
Step ten:
Here is a subassembly running up the left side of the page. The entire kit only gave me eleven fit challenges...three of those are on this page.
J36 is not keyed to J4. K6 just took 5 tries to fit, and the placement of the finished subassembly is a guess; that I used the middle subassembly of J45 and J68 as a guide to where to glue it down to.
~Cheers
Here is a subassembly running up the left side of the page. The entire kit only gave me eleven fit challenges...three of those are on this page.
J36 is not keyed to J4. K6 just took 5 tries to fit, and the placement of the finished subassembly is a guess; that I used the middle subassembly of J45 and J68 as a guide to where to glue it down to.
~Cheers
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 12:52 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 12:55 PM UTC
Step twelve:
Be alert in trimming G38 off the sprue. I messed up and trimmed off the retaining straps. G18 and F10 went together with a nice tight fit J99 is WORKABLE - do NOT glue to K54 (instructions forget to mention this). The sub assembly in the lower right hand corner of the page Is a three point working part be careful how you make this.
Here is where I'm going to question the intent of the company that put out the kit and its instructions. there are SO MANY Workable pieces to this kit; but they don't write out the exact steps to use/understand the 'why' of these options. I fail to understand how any company can hope to gain the top place in the hearts of their customers, or the highest status, spoken in Honor, if they short change the intelligence of quality modelers. I mean how much can an extra page or two add to the bottom line; of these new, complex, and expensive models.
~Cheers
Be alert in trimming G38 off the sprue. I messed up and trimmed off the retaining straps. G18 and F10 went together with a nice tight fit J99 is WORKABLE - do NOT glue to K54 (instructions forget to mention this). The sub assembly in the lower right hand corner of the page Is a three point working part be careful how you make this.
Here is where I'm going to question the intent of the company that put out the kit and its instructions. there are SO MANY Workable pieces to this kit; but they don't write out the exact steps to use/understand the 'why' of these options. I fail to understand how any company can hope to gain the top place in the hearts of their customers, or the highest status, spoken in Honor, if they short change the intelligence of quality modelers. I mean how much can an extra page or two add to the bottom line; of these new, complex, and expensive models.
~Cheers
The_musings_of_NBNoG
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:02 PM UTC
Step thirteen:
Very similar to Step 12. I had to clamp C19 and C18, these pieces were the worst fiting of the entire kit for me. But a clamp made it work. J55 didn't fit that easy either. This finished assembly was loose at its attatchment point, and I wasn't sure it would block some of the birdcage places of attachment; so I waited to glue it in place untill the end of Step 21.
Step fourteen:
This was fairly easy, although I'd cut parts G41 off the sprue from the front so it wouldn't chip out the part's face.
~Cheers
Very similar to Step 12. I had to clamp C19 and C18, these pieces were the worst fiting of the entire kit for me. But a clamp made it work. J55 didn't fit that easy either. This finished assembly was loose at its attatchment point, and I wasn't sure it would block some of the birdcage places of attachment; so I waited to glue it in place untill the end of Step 21.
Step fourteen:
This was fairly easy, although I'd cut parts G41 off the sprue from the front so it wouldn't chip out the part's face.
~Cheers
The_musings_of_NBNoG
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:03 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:16 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:24 PM UTC
Step seventeen:
Gluing J64 in place brings to fore a problem I encountered. Because the entire shell loading crane is made to be workable, any movement will knock off the workable assembly you made on the lower right hand corner of page 11. There should be an explanation of how all these pieces should work together. After all my troubles at the end of page 17. I ended up just gluing the dang assembly in the purple circle on page 11 in a guesstimated position so it wouldn't interfere with the shell crane's functionality. Its frustrating because you do a lot of small and complicated work and the instructions leave you short.
The next subassembly is the easy part to make the entire crane workable ... be careful jamming J15 into J76...
I sanded J15 a VERY small amount to get the fit.
So sweet...
~Cheers - you deserve it by now...
Gluing J64 in place brings to fore a problem I encountered. Because the entire shell loading crane is made to be workable, any movement will knock off the workable assembly you made on the lower right hand corner of page 11. There should be an explanation of how all these pieces should work together. After all my troubles at the end of page 17. I ended up just gluing the dang assembly in the purple circle on page 11 in a guesstimated position so it wouldn't interfere with the shell crane's functionality. Its frustrating because you do a lot of small and complicated work and the instructions leave you short.
The next subassembly is the easy part to make the entire crane workable ... be careful jamming J15 into J76...
I sanded J15 a VERY small amount to get the fit.
So sweet...
~Cheers - you deserve it by now...
The_musings_of_NBNoG
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:27 PM UTC
I really hope you took a small breather,
we now tackle the (just as complicated) other side of the gun cradle.
we now tackle the (just as complicated) other side of the gun cradle.
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:30 PM UTC
At the bottom of Step seventeen on Page 15, is the assembly of very small pieces. I wrote down on my instructions page, that G12 was TOO small. also I flailed around with the placement of PE-21. All it would have taken is a the inclusion of a photo like 2S7_Page_15_Step-17F.
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~Cheers
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~Cheers
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:38 PM UTC
Step eighteen:
It gets harder here.... I stuggled with J4 and J5 placement my keys didn't catch. On the top right of the page... PE-10 says bend... but gives no side view example of how... J46 is workable...instructions should warn 'No Cement between J40 and J39. I had 'keyed' issues with the subassembly at the top of the page and its final spot on J40.
Oooohhh at this point ... ya gotta sit back and admire your work..
and now... Even More Complexity on the left side coming.....
~Cheers
It gets harder here.... I stuggled with J4 and J5 placement my keys didn't catch. On the top right of the page... PE-10 says bend... but gives no side view example of how... J46 is workable...instructions should warn 'No Cement between J40 and J39. I had 'keyed' issues with the subassembly at the top of the page and its final spot on J40.
Oooohhh at this point ... ya gotta sit back and admire your work..
and now... Even More Complexity on the left side coming.....
~Cheers
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:40 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:45 PM UTC
Step twenty:
PE-9 again gives no side view example of how to bend it.
The atatchment point of the entire subassembly in Step 20 is by J12 to D10 ! PLEASE test this fit before the whole bird cage assmembly is even made. Once its made and then you have any dificulty, you risk breaking other parts of this complicated gun.
(as I did)
All that work.......
~Cheers
PE-9 again gives no side view example of how to bend it.
The atatchment point of the entire subassembly in Step 20 is by J12 to D10 ! PLEASE test this fit before the whole bird cage assmembly is even made. Once its made and then you have any dificulty, you risk breaking other parts of this complicated gun.
(as I did)
All that work.......
~Cheers
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:48 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:49 PM UTC
Step twenty-two:
The barrel went together for me like a charm. Using rubber bands to keep the fit tight; I put glue drops on the inner seams to hold the pieces together. I love AM metal barrels, but in this case it seems to me I wasted money when I bought the $12 barrel. ( Yes, for me the fit and clean-up is that good )
~Cheers
The barrel went together for me like a charm. Using rubber bands to keep the fit tight; I put glue drops on the inner seams to hold the pieces together. I love AM metal barrels, but in this case it seems to me I wasted money when I bought the $12 barrel. ( Yes, for me the fit and clean-up is that good )
~Cheers
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:52 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:54 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 01:57 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 02:02 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 02:05 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 02:08 PM UTC
Step twenty-six:
If I glued the ladder into the position shown in the instructions, it would break off before the tank was finished. I'd wait untill step 35.
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Looks like I guessed wrong as how to fold it...
you can see here I pinned the ladder to the hull, -sorry AFVFan Bob )-:
~Cheers
If I glued the ladder into the position shown in the instructions, it would break off before the tank was finished. I'd wait untill step 35.
The following images are used for discussion in this not for profit piece of Journalism.
Looks like I guessed wrong as how to fold it...
you can see here I pinned the ladder to the hull, -sorry AFVFan Bob )-:
~Cheers
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 03:23 PM UTC
So this was done as a speed build..
.
So we could get a build review up on the site...
600+ pieces in 7 evenings.
the tracks took 3 additional evenings.
the last couple of weeks were spent getting the photos done, edited, and with the comments photoshopped in.
the last 3 days I've spent trying to write some slight story line to go with the photos...
I'm hoping to conclude the comments and photos in the next days.
hang in there... it ends well hahahahaha
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So we could get a build review up on the site...
600+ pieces in 7 evenings.
the tracks took 3 additional evenings.
the last couple of weeks were spent getting the photos done, edited, and with the comments photoshopped in.
the last 3 days I've spent trying to write some slight story line to go with the photos...
I'm hoping to conclude the comments and photos in the next days.
hang in there... it ends well hahahahaha
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2016 - 10:27 PM UTC
Now That is what a build review is all about
Excellent
Tony lee
Excellent
Tony lee
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 - 12:09 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Now That is what a build review is all about
Excellent
Tony lee
I second that! I will try to save it some way.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 - 01:14 AM UTC
I am struggling through making this kit at the moment as well.
Great review, helped me a lot. Some things that you came up with I found out the same thing, but you have a few issues that I missed or haven't got to yet.
Great review, helped me a lot. Some things that you came up with I found out the same thing, but you have a few issues that I missed or haven't got to yet.