Maki
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - 04:15 PM UTC
If I recall correctly, the newest Leopard model from
Meng was announced on Januray 1st 2016. Now the company shows the boxart photo, suggesting the project is slowly coming to its end.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - 05:54 PM UTC
No sprue shots? It will be much more interesting to compare it with Tamiya A6 and HB A4M CAN
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - 06:47 PM UTC
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No sprue shots? It will be much more interesting to compare it with Tamiya A6 and HB A4M CAN
Meng is doing the A4, this would be the basis to built on..
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - 06:50 PM UTC
I just finished sourcing parts for a 2A6. Looks like Meng just saved my pocket book.
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bill_c
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - 08:15 PM UTC
Anything Meng is all right by me!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - 11:15 PM UTC
But Meng, please change your plastic. The green one is horrible
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - 11:49 PM UTC
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But Meng, please change your plastic. The green one is horrible
recycling plastic is cheap dude。。。or the price will go crazy...
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 12:09 AM UTC
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But Meng, please change your plastic. The green one is horrible
recycling plastic is cheap dude。。。or the price will go crazy...
Er, no. Even new plastic for a kit like this could cost £0.30 at most.
Never gonna' give EU up, never gonna' let EU down.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 12:31 AM UTC
Doesn't the Leopard 2A7 have an optional up-armor package similar to the Leopard 2A4M CAN? I wonder if Meng would release another 2A7 kit with the additional armor or if someone would do it in resin? Just because I have a pathological need to have every Leopard 2 variant.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 12:57 AM UTC
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But Meng, please change your plastic. The green one is horrible
recycling plastic is cheap dude。。。or the price will go crazy...
Er, no. Even new plastic for a kit like this could cost £0.30 at most.
first you have to.understand how a model brand China operates and how much it would cost in China。the cost of different plastic makes big difference.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 12:59 AM UTC
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Doesn't the Leopard 2A7 have an optional up-armor package similar to the Leopard 2A4M CAN? I wonder if Meng would release another 2A7 kit with the additional armor or if someone would do it in resin? Just because I have a pathological need to have every Leopard 2 variant.
A7 has nothing to do with all thr A7+ family. in fact A7 was based on the combat record of canadian rented A6M and then upgraded by using dutch LEOPARDA6.
since hobbyboss has already started their leopard rebirth project and A4M doesnt let us down...i will put my money on them(AFAIK they got 3 professional consultants at least and two of them knows things very well)
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 02:09 AM UTC
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since hobbyboss has already started their leopard rebirth project and A4M doesnt let us down...i will put my money on them(AFAIK they got 3 professional consultants at least and two of them knows things very well)
That nearly sounds like you have no connection to them... nearly.
Olaf
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 02:26 AM UTC
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since hobbyboss has already started their leopard rebirth project and A4M doesnt let us down...i will put my money on them(AFAIK they got 3 professional consultants at least and two of them knows things very well)
That nearly sounds like you have no connection to them... nearly.
Olaf
somebody always need to do some offbook ops right olaf? what is next project of clinic?
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 03:30 AM UTC
Meng kits are the best, what quality!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 04:40 AM UTC
there is no Remote gun station on this one?
Thx
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 06:12 AM UTC
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Doesn't the Leopard 2A7 have an optional up-armor package similar to the Leopard 2A4M CAN? I wonder if Meng would release another 2A7 kit with the additional armor or if someone would do it in resin? Just because I have a pathological need to have every Leopard 2 variant.
A7 has nothing to do with all thr A7+ family. in fact A7 was based on the combat record of canadian rented A6M and then upgraded by using dutch LEOPARDA6.
since hobbyboss has already started their leopard rebirth project and A4M doesnt let us down...i will put my money on them(AFAIK they got 3 professional consultants at least and two of them knows things very well)
Ah, thanks. I was thinking that there was additional armor available for the 2A7. I knew the 2A7+ had a package.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 06:54 AM UTC
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there is no Remote gun station on this one?
Thx
The station is only fitted to the 2A7+ variant. Meng is doing the vanilla 2A7 without that and other LIC equipment
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 07:23 AM UTC
Regarding Meng's plastic, I was just starting on the Hobbyboss Leopard 2A4M kit and was thinking the plastic was similar to Mengs and not just in color.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 08:43 AM UTC
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I just finished sourcing parts for a 2A6. Looks like Meng just saved my pocket book.
How will having parts for a 2A6 help you with a 2A7? There are quite some big differences. Hull rear right side for one...
Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 12:12 PM UTC
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Doesn't the Leopard 2A7 have an optional up-armor package similar to the Leopard 2A4M CAN? I wonder if Meng would release another 2A7 kit with the additional armor or if someone would do it in resin? Just because I have a pathological need to have every Leopard 2 variant.
A7 has nothing to do with all thr A7+ family. in fact A7 was based on the combat record of canadian rented A6M and then upgraded by using dutch LEOPARDA6.
since hobbyboss has already started their leopard rebirth project and A4M doesnt let us down...i will put my money on them(AFAIK they got 3 professional consultants at least and two of them knows things very well)
Ah, thanks. I was thinking that there was additional armor available for the 2A7. I knew the 2A7+ had a package.
The 2A7 is fitted with the belly mine protection armour...as it was fitted to the leased Canadian 2A6M CANs....which in turn have become the 2A7s. The 2A7 has the ability to mount passive add-on armour if needed. The 2A7s in German service don't mount the add-on armour.
Interestingly the 2A7's PERI R17 for the commander and the gunner's sight are the ATTICA thermal sight. This is third generation thermal and the imagery is amazing. The ATTICA thermal sight is scheduled as an upgrade for Canadian and Danish Leopard 2s as well.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 01:24 PM UTC
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I just finished sourcing parts for a 2A6. Looks like Meng just saved my pocket book.
How will having parts for a 2A6 help you with a 2A7? There are quite some big differences. Hull rear right side for one...
Jim
I haven't started buying them, yet. I plan ahead, but won't buy anything before I start laying down paint on my current project.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 05:39 PM UTC
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Doesn't the Leopard 2A7 have an optional up-armor package similar to the Leopard 2A4M CAN? I wonder if Meng would release another 2A7 kit with the additional armor or if someone would do it in resin? Just because I have a pathological need to have every Leopard 2 variant.
A7 has nothing to do with all thr A7+ family. in fact A7 was based on the combat record of canadian rented A6M and then upgraded by using dutch LEOPARDA6.
since hobbyboss has already started their leopard rebirth project and A4M doesnt let us down...i will put my money on them(AFAIK they got 3 professional consultants at least and two of them knows things very well)
Ah, thanks. I was thinking that there was additional armor available for the 2A7. I knew the 2A7+ had a package.
The 2A7 is fitted with the belly mine protection armour...as it was fitted to the leased Canadian 2A6M CANs....which in turn have become the 2A7s. The 2A7 has the ability to mount passive add-on armour if needed. The 2A7s in German service don't mount the add-on armour.
Interestingly the 2A7's PERI R17 for the commander and the gunner's sight are the ATTICA thermal sight. This is third generation thermal and the imagery is amazing. The ATTICA thermal sight is scheduled as an upgrade for Canadian and Danish Leopard 2s as well.
now you give me another reason.to.revise and uograde the old.set...lol
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Posted: Saturday, February 27, 2016 - 10:35 AM UTC
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Doesn't the Leopard 2A7 have an optional up-armor package similar to the Leopard 2A4M CAN? I wonder if Meng would release another 2A7 kit with the additional armor or if someone would do it in resin? Just because I have a pathological need to have every Leopard 2 variant.
A7 has nothing to do with all thr A7+ family. in fact A7 was based on the combat record of canadian rented A6M and then upgraded by using dutch LEOPARDA6.
since hobbyboss has already started their leopard rebirth project and A4M doesnt let us down...i will put my money on them(AFAIK they got 3 professional consultants at least and two of them knows things very well)
Ah, thanks. I was thinking that there was additional armor available for the 2A7. I knew the 2A7+ had a package.
The 2A7 is fitted with the belly mine protection armour...as it was fitted to the leased Canadian 2A6M CANs....which in turn have become the 2A7s. The 2A7 has the ability to mount passive add-on armour if needed. The 2A7s in German service don't mount the add-on armour.
Interestingly the 2A7's PERI R17 for the commander and the gunner's sight are the ATTICA thermal sight. This is third generation thermal and the imagery is amazing. The ATTICA thermal sight is scheduled as an upgrade for Canadian and Danish Leopard 2s as well.
The A6M tanks in Canada are the same ones we had overseas.
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Posted: Saturday, February 27, 2016 - 11:21 AM UTC
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Doesn't the Leopard 2A7 have an optional up-armor package similar to the Leopard 2A4M CAN? I wonder if Meng would release another 2A7 kit with the additional armor or if someone would do it in resin? Just because I have a pathological need to have every Leopard 2 variant.
A7 has nothing to do with all thr A7+ family. in fact A7 was based on the combat record of canadian rented A6M and then upgraded by using dutch LEOPARDA6.
since hobbyboss has already started their leopard rebirth project and A4M doesnt let us down...i will put my money on them(AFAIK they got 3 professional consultants at least and two of them knows things very well)
Ah, thanks. I was thinking that there was additional armor available for the 2A7. I knew the 2A7+ had a package.
The 2A7 is fitted with the belly mine protection armour...as it was fitted to the leased Canadian 2A6M CANs....which in turn have become the 2A7s. The 2A7 has the ability to mount passive add-on armour if needed. The 2A7s in German service don't mount the add-on armour.
Interestingly the 2A7's PERI R17 for the commander and the gunner's sight are the ATTICA thermal sight. This is third generation thermal and the imagery is amazing. The ATTICA thermal sight is scheduled as an upgrade for Canadian and Danish Leopard 2s as well.
The A6M tanks in Canada are the same ones we had overseas.
Regards
You are correct Frank...I mixed up the logistics chain on the tanks.
Canada kept the Leopard 2A6M CANs that were originally "leased" for Afghanistan. In turn Canada purchased 20 x Dutch Leopard 2A6NLs and provided them to Germany as payment for the 2A6M CANs. The ex-Dutch Leopard 2A6NLs have now been converted in the German Leopard 2A7s.
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