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Meng Scud
Illini
Joined: March 27, 2003
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Posted: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 10:27 PM UTC
I just got an e-mail from Freetime that Meng informed them they no longer plan to release this model
CowboyfromHell
Joined: September 18, 2014
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Posted: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 10:48 PM UTC
I will feel so sad if the same business goes with the chieftain.
tankmodeler
#417
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Posted: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 11:24 PM UTC
Not surprising, really. If there is a competing product in a tight market spending money you may not recoup is not a wise decision for any company.
If this keeps Meng profitable and able to bring other kits to market, I'm OK with it (not like they asked my permission or anything
).
We frequently bemoan it when several companies bring out one kit saying "why couldn't they spread the love around". this is what that looks like.
Paul
If this keeps Meng profitable and able to bring other kits to market, I'm OK with it (not like they asked my permission or anything
).We frequently bemoan it when several companies bring out one kit saying "why couldn't they spread the love around". this is what that looks like.
Paul
Krokogen
Joined: January 09, 2009
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:58 AM UTC
Very bad. I do not want to buy trash from trumpeter 
Illini
Joined: March 27, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:08 AM UTC
actually, I just bought the trumpeter scud kit and am about 75% done. It going together very well. Good fit, minimal ejector marks (for trumpeter), lots of detail, etc.
I can't speak to the technical accuracy, I haven't been able to find a decent reference.
I can't speak to the technical accuracy, I haven't been able to find a decent reference.
Frenchy
Joined: December 02, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:26 AM UTC
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I can't speak to the technical accuracy, I haven't been able to find a decent reference.
http://www.primeportal.net/artillery/tim_roberts/maz-543_scud_b_tel/
http://svsm.org/gallery/SS-1C
http://svsm.org/gallery/ss-1
H.P.
andymacrae
Joined: September 01, 2005
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 02:19 AM UTC
Damn! Their Smerch is better than Trumpeters.
Andy
Andy
SgtRam
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 02:22 AM UTC
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Very bad. I do not want to buy trash from trumpeter
Bought and built the Trumpeter kit, it is a real nice kit, builds very well.
Hellrabbit
Joined: June 28, 2015
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 03:38 AM UTC
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Damn! Their Smerch is better than Trumpeters.
Andy
Compare to the price and trumpeter phase 2 smerch. It hard to say who is better. At least the launcher accuracy is better on trumpeter side.
Hellrabbit
Joined: June 28, 2015
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 03:40 AM UTC
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Quoted TextVery bad. I do not want to buy trash from trumpeter
Bought and built the Trumpeter kit, it is a real nice kit, builds very well.
Must because Tru released too much Russian project and flooded too many old zvezda/DML/ICM/Skif stuff. I can understand that. Lol
CowboyfromHell
Joined: September 18, 2014
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 05:04 AM UTC
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Not surprising, really. If there is a competing product in a tight market spending money you may not recoup is not a wise decision for any company.
If this keeps Meng profitable and able to bring other kits to market, I'm OK with it (not like they asked my permission or anything
We frequently bemoan it when several companies bring out one kit saying "why couldn't they spread the love around". this is what that looks like.
Paul
Agreed, but since they declared their future release of the product, they are responsible for making an official announcement that they cancelled it (or unpromisingly postponed it, if that's the case). I'm pretty sure there are bunch of people out there who haven't heard this news and still have anticipation in their minds to see the Meng's Scud on market someday. It's taking advantage of their fan base.
Perhaps they will do so in few days?
165thspc
#521
Joined: April 13, 2011
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 06:32 AM UTC
Plenty of other 8x8 variants to use that Smerch chassis with!
hugohuertas
Joined: January 26, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 06:34 AM UTC
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Very bad. I do not want to buy trash from trumpeter
Then don't...
There are a lot of kits from other manufacturers out there to choose from. Just do not build a Scud, that's it.
staff_Jim
Publisher
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 11:12 AM UTC
I have just heard from my contact at Meng and he wanted me to communicate that they are still moving forward with both the SCUD-B and Chieftain projects. Not only that but they are on schedule.
I can check with Brandon at Freetime to see what's up. Perhaps it was just a badly worded email.
You can all relax now.
Cheers,
Jim
I can check with Brandon at Freetime to see what's up. Perhaps it was just a badly worded email.
You can all relax now.
Cheers,
Jim
Scarred
Joined: March 11, 2016
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 11:23 AM UTC
Guess I'm gonna have to build my Dragon SCUD after all. But the Smerch is going on my Have To Have list. There are several Meng kits on that list and it seems it gets longer every week.
Illini
Joined: March 27, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 06:16 PM UTC
This is the e-mail I got from Freetime
Unfortunately the following product you signed up to be notified when back in stock is no longer available: 1/35 Meng Russian 9K72 Scud-B Mobile Tactical Missile System We are sorry for any inconvenience.
Meng has informed us that they have canceled production and no longer intend to release this model.
Unfortunately the following product you signed up to be notified when back in stock is no longer available: 1/35 Meng Russian 9K72 Scud-B Mobile Tactical Missile System We are sorry for any inconvenience.
Meng has informed us that they have canceled production and no longer intend to release this model.
SgtRam
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 06:32 PM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextVery bad. I do not want to buy trash from trumpeter
Bought and built the Trumpeter kit, it is a real nice kit, builds very well.
Must because Tru released too much Russian project and flooded too many old zvezda/DML/ICM/Skif stuff. I can understand that. Lol
No idea what you said.
skyshark
Joined: November 16, 2005
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 07:02 PM UTC
What is Freetime?
ijozic
Joined: May 23, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 07:09 PM UTC
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Guess I'm gonna have to build my Dragon SCUD after all. But the Smerch is going on my Have To Have list. There are several Meng kits on that list and it seems it gets longer every week.
Sorry, but why not the Trumpeter kit? The Meng kit would probably be somewhat more detailed (judging from the Smerch kits), but they would both be in a similar league, unlike the old Dragon kit.
Illini
Joined: March 27, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 07:16 PM UTC
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What is Freetime?
Freetime Hobbies, Google it
jfeenstra
Joined: April 24, 2014
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 07:32 PM UTC
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Sorry, but why not the Trumpeter kit? The Meng kit would probably be somewhat more detailed (judging from the Smerch kits), but they would both be in a similar league, unlike the old Dragon kit.[/quote]
Detail and accuracy-wise the Trumpeter and Meng Smerch kits are definitely not in the same league. One look at the deck under the launcher in the two kits will easily show that Trumpeter's accuracy is suspect. And there's a reason why Trumpeter includes some additional details for the Scud vehicle in their Scud Crew kit - these should have been in the original kit.
I'll happily wait for the Meng kit of the Scud, knowing that it should be a better model. The fact that they didn't rush it out to compete with Trumpeter is a good thing.
Sorry, but why not the Trumpeter kit? The Meng kit would probably be somewhat more detailed (judging from the Smerch kits), but they would both be in a similar league, unlike the old Dragon kit.[/quote]
Detail and accuracy-wise the Trumpeter and Meng Smerch kits are definitely not in the same league. One look at the deck under the launcher in the two kits will easily show that Trumpeter's accuracy is suspect. And there's a reason why Trumpeter includes some additional details for the Scud vehicle in their Scud Crew kit - these should have been in the original kit.
I'll happily wait for the Meng kit of the Scud, knowing that it should be a better model. The fact that they didn't rush it out to compete with Trumpeter is a good thing.
Illini
Joined: March 27, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 07:51 PM UTC
Base on all the comments, I just bought the Meng Smerch for less than $100 not sure it's kosher to mention where here, so send me a message, and I'll tell you where.
165thspc
#521
Joined: April 13, 2011
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 08:42 PM UTC
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Sorry, but why not the Trumpeter kit? The Meng kit would probably be somewhat more detailed (judging from the Smerch kits), but they would both be in a similar league, unlike the old Dragon kit.[/quote]
Detail and accuracy-wise the Trumpeter and Meng Smerch kits are definitely not in the same league. One look at the deck under the launcher in the two kits will easily show that Trumpeter's accuracy is suspect. And there's a reason why Trumpeter includes some additional details for the Scud vehicle in their Scud Crew kit - these should have been in the original kit.
I'll happily wait for the Meng kit of the Scud, knowing that it should be a better model. The fact that they didn't rush it out to compete with Trumpeter is a good thing.[/quote]
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Well, my problem here is that I want the best chassis I can get my hands on to build my semi-tractor. (I'll be tossing out the missile) but I also need the 4 man cab. If Meng has cancelled their Scud that leaves me buying the Trumpeter offering even though the Meng chassis may be the better detailed choice. (Of course I could buy the Meng Smerch AND the Trumpy Scud but I don't see that as happening anytime soon!)
Scarred
Joined: March 11, 2016
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Posted: Thursday, March 31, 2016 - 06:32 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextGuess I'm gonna have to build my Dragon SCUD after all. But the Smerch is going on my Have To Have list. There are several Meng kits on that list and it seems it gets longer every week.
Sorry, but why not the Trumpeter kit? The Meng kit would probably be somewhat more detailed (judging from the Smerch kits), but they would both be in a similar league, unlike the old Dragon kit.
I've built some real dogs from early Trumpeter kits. I don't have respect for companies that recasts kits, they even left the original makers name and logos on the sprues. Sure they've changed now but I'm not all that impressed. And yes they've got a lot of variety but my early experiences left me leery of them.
Hellrabbit
Joined: June 28, 2015
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Posted: Thursday, March 31, 2016 - 08:34 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Sorry, but why not the Trumpeter kit? The Meng kit would probably be somewhat more detailed (judging from the Smerch kits), but they would both be in a similar league, unlike the old Dragon kit.[/quote]
Detail and accuracy-wise the Trumpeter and Meng Smerch kits are definitely not in the same league. One look at the deck under the launcher in the two kits will easily show that Trumpeter's accuracy is suspect. And there's a reason why Trumpeter includes some additional details for the Scud vehicle in their Scud Crew kit - these should have been in the original kit.
I'll happily wait for the Meng kit of the Scud, knowing that it should be a better model. The fact that they didn't rush it out to compete with Trumpeter is a good thing.[/quote]
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