CCKW 352 - Hobby Boss with Italeri cab
Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 05:30 AM UTC
Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz
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Oklahoma, United States
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 07:28 AM UTC
That's so nice. I need to do something similar.
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 07:31 AM UTC
This looks really, really nice. Just because I don't know and haven't looked into it, what's wrong with the Hobbyboss cab?
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 08:29 AM UTC
Wow. That is great. Looks like the real thing!
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 08:53 AM UTC
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This looks really, really nice. Just because I don't know and haven't looked into it, what's wrong with the Hobbyboss cab?
The doors are too small.
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 09:56 AM UTC
Pawel, that is really beautiful. I like your subtle weathering technique. It is so effective. Your models really highlight the work you put into the build. I have read elsewhere that this is a needed fix if you want an accurate CCKW. Thanks for posting it. I am also happy to see you updating your own site again.
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Eric
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 11:01 AM UTC
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This looks really, really nice. Just because I don't know and haven't looked into it, what's wrong with the Hobbyboss cab?
The doors are too small.
That's right, but it's not just that: the overall length of the cab is correct, but the driver's compartment is too short, while engine compartment is too long. The proportions are significantly off because of that - for me it is very visible.
Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 12:17 PM UTC
Actually if I am not mistaken the Italeri hard top cab owes it's lineage to the old Peerless Max kit. Nearly 40 years old. Quite a testament for the original.
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 12:35 PM UTC
Hi gang, I don't know if anyone is interested but I did the same thing with a Tamiya kitbash.
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Baden-Württemberg, Germany
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 12:51 PM UTC
Hi Pawel,
Great adaption! Congrats!
I remember from a comparison to a drawing in the tankograd TM, using the door length as a known references, the HB cabin was was ok as you say in one of your replies, but then the praised italeri cabin could be around 2 to 3 mm too short. Did it cause you any problem? Did you actually notice it at all?
Nacho
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 02:03 PM UTC
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Hi Pawel,
Great adaption! Congrats!
I remember from a comparison to a drawing in the tankograd TM, using the door length as a known references, the HB cabin was was ok as you say in one of your replies, but then the praised italeri cabin could be around 2 to 3 mm too short. Did it cause you any problem? Did you actually notice it at all?
Nacho
I didn't notice this problem. But there was enough problems to make the Italeri cab fit the HB frame, that 2mm overall length difference was easy to miss. And I usually start measuring things when they don't look right to me (which is quite often actually...) and the Italeri cab looks right. Correct proportions are more important than absolute size - as eye always identifies shape problems sooner than size problems.
But I just realized that I made one more modification to Italeri cab - I lowered boarding steps about 2 - 3 mms. I think they are too close to the door bottom in the Italeri cab, or at least they seemed to be placed too high when I test fitted parts on my model. I think it looks right now.
Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 02:04 PM UTC
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Hi gang, I don't know if anyone is interested but I did the same thing with a Tamiya kitbash.
Sure, show us! I considered it, but prefer the closed cab.
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Kentucky, United States
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 07:27 PM UTC
Great job! Cheers, here, here!
I am waiting for the SWB with gun ring to get to the US and to come down in price a bite before I start mine. (Do not want to put any more money in HB's pocket than I have to for their messed up cab!) Will also be using the Italeri cab to finish off mine.
Canelones, Uruguay
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 07:51 PM UTC
Great work Pawell. I like the subtle weathering and the job.
I have an Italeri one and waiting for the HB to do the same.
Thanks for sharing.
Regards from the south
Alvaro
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 08:36 PM UTC
#521
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 09:07 PM UTC
And the cab swap works in the opposite direction as well; Tamiya open cab placed on the Italeri water truck.
Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2016 - 11:53 PM UTC
It has been pointed out that front facing reflectors should be amber, not red. I repainted them to correct color on my model already, but to save myself some work I altered my photos digitally - but the color on the photos still matches the actual corrected color on my model, so no cheating here
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 06:26 PM UTC
Excellent, excellent build! Kudos.
Michigan, United States
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 06:53 PM UTC
Looks great...time for you to bring it to market, I'd buy one.
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2016 - 01:40 AM UTC
Pawel, if you don't mind me asking, where did the ammo boxes come from? Also nicely done!
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Kentucky, United States
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 05:44 PM UTC
Would you please give me any advice/tips you can offer on bending that large piece of etch for the gas tank shield?
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 06:14 PM UTC
AN ADMIRABLE JOB!!!
I've done numerous ITALERI/TAMIYA CCKW353 kit-bash projects, using different components of each, plus a lot of aftermarket stuff; I really like the ABER PE sets- hard to find, but not impossible. I also really like the DEF CCKW "sagged" Tire/Wheelsets. I've seen enough real CCKW 352s and 353s to see that even when the Tires are pumped up to the correct air pressure, there is still some "bulge & sag" to them...
I MIGHT try an HB/ITALERI cross-breed, after seeing this...
Michigan, United States
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Posted: Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 09:43 PM UTC
What technique did you use to modify the Italeri doors to make them less "flat"?
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Posted: Thursday, June 29, 2017 - 10:57 PM UTC
Pawel, really excellent build and outstanding finish! Great model.
Best,
Matt
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Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 - 12:08 AM UTC
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What technique did you use to modify the Italeri doors to make them less "flat"?
The doors were easy - I just carefully bent the upper frame - actually it broke in half in one door in the process and I had to repair it. I made a new glass for the right side door matching the new frame shape (there's no glass in the left side one).
More difficult was the shape of the door opening. I first drilled a row of holes above the door opening and connected them to create a single long hole. It allowed me to push the upper door opening "frame" upwards to give it more curved shape. Once I reached the desired shape, I filled the opening with CA glue and hit it with accelerator. Then I restored the smooth roof shape with putty.
Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz
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