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Flammpanzerwagen Kfz. 251/16 ausf. C - Dragon

brekinapez

Joined: July 26, 2013
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 03:33 AM UTC
How do they open the rear hatches with that bar across the back?

JohnDoe4th

Joined: March 03, 2016
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 04:03 AM UTC
Your chipping technic is amazing!!!!

Kraftstoff

Joined: September 06, 2002
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 07:04 AM UTC
Lukasz, I very much like the paint work and chipping .. Maybe just touch up the couple of green runs..2 thumbs up

simonn

Joined: October 15, 2016
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 11:53 AM UTC
Lukasz
The overall effect is excellent. there are one or two green lines that could be touched up but only if you think it is necessary. It looks great as is.
I have this kit - won it in the club raffle - and was wondering if I have the parts in the kit to make a standard half track and leave off the flame throwing equipment. What do you think?
Simon
The overall effect is excellent. there are one or two green lines that could be touched up but only if you think it is necessary. It looks great as is.
I have this kit - won it in the club raffle - and was wondering if I have the parts in the kit to make a standard half track and leave off the flame throwing equipment. What do you think?
Simon

justsendit

Joined: February 24, 2014
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 11:38 PM UTC
Hi Łukasz,
Nice job on the details, painting, and camo! Looking forward to what you'll do with your building.
—mike
Looks like the bar in question might be an external, removable weapon attached to a hose for creating even more carnage from outside of the vehicle ... nasty business! I found these on the web: drawing and rear view image
Nice job on the details, painting, and camo! Looking forward to what you'll do with your building.
—mike
Quoted Text
How do they open the rear hatches with that bar across the back?
Looks like the bar in question might be an external, removable weapon attached to a hose for creating even more carnage from outside of the vehicle ... nasty business! I found these on the web: drawing and rear view image

Stojkovic1987

Joined: March 26, 2015
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Posted: Saturday, November 26, 2016 - 02:32 AM UTC
Hello!
Well As far as I know, this is not a bar on the door, but some kind of equipment (petrol pistol like on the gas stations) for refuel the tanks for flamethrowers (there goes the pipeline wich will be attached later).
I believe that the extra parts in model would give a Chance to make standard Halftrack without flamethrowers.
The Painting scheme was not good enough, so I decided to repaint the model. Now the lines are more clear.



Feel free to speak your mind. Thanks!
Well As far as I know, this is not a bar on the door, but some kind of equipment (petrol pistol like on the gas stations) for refuel the tanks for flamethrowers (there goes the pipeline wich will be attached later).
I believe that the extra parts in model would give a Chance to make standard Halftrack without flamethrowers.
The Painting scheme was not good enough, so I decided to repaint the model. Now the lines are more clear.



Feel free to speak your mind. Thanks!

justsendit

Joined: February 24, 2014
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Posted: Saturday, November 26, 2016 - 03:26 AM UTC
Quoted Text
The Painting scheme was not good enough, so I decided to repaint the model. Now the lines are more clear.
I really like this version a lot ... nice improvement! Now try not to get too carried away with the chipping.

—mike
Dioramartin

Joined: May 04, 2016
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Posted: Saturday, November 26, 2016 - 04:58 AM UTC
Hi Lukasz
Yes that’s much better, brave choice to repaint it – as Mike said don’t overdo the chipping, the first version looked like it was 30 years old. Check out Colin’s Marder II just posted in the Constructive Feedback forum, his chipping looks just right.
Also you had a lot of wear on the engine inspection doors before – I’d suggest the doors would be relatively “clean”, it’s the areas around the hatch where mechanics trod and put down leaky oil cans that would be worn.
Looking forward to seeing the finished article, it’s looking great.
Cheers, Tim
Yes that’s much better, brave choice to repaint it – as Mike said don’t overdo the chipping, the first version looked like it was 30 years old. Check out Colin’s Marder II just posted in the Constructive Feedback forum, his chipping looks just right.
Also you had a lot of wear on the engine inspection doors before – I’d suggest the doors would be relatively “clean”, it’s the areas around the hatch where mechanics trod and put down leaky oil cans that would be worn.
Looking forward to seeing the finished article, it’s looking great.
Cheers, Tim



Stojkovic1987

Joined: March 26, 2015
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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2016 - 02:50 AM UTC
Hello,
The model repainted 3rd time - final one.
I've already put decals. The tricky one was the front and read licence plates which contains the white background and every numer tto be set separately. It took ages to make it 3 Times and as steady and accurate as I can.





Now the weathering and all other stuff.
The model repainted 3rd time - final one.
I've already put decals. The tricky one was the front and read licence plates which contains the white background and every numer tto be set separately. It took ages to make it 3 Times and as steady and accurate as I can.





Now the weathering and all other stuff.

Stojkovic1987

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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 11:59 PM UTC

RobinNilsson


Joined: November 29, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 06:10 AM UTC
Impressive !
Maybe it is the photos but the balkenkreuz and the number 89 look very clean compared to the rest of the vehicle? The registration number is on the same level of dirty as the rest so they are fine.
Good timing to update this thread now that there is News post about Dragon re-issuing the Sd.Kfz 251/16 .....
/ Robin
Maybe it is the photos but the balkenkreuz and the number 89 look very clean compared to the rest of the vehicle? The registration number is on the same level of dirty as the rest so they are fine.
Good timing to update this thread now that there is News post about Dragon re-issuing the Sd.Kfz 251/16 .....

/ Robin

Stojkovic1987

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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2017 - 12:31 AM UTC

RobinNilsson


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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2017 - 01:52 AM UTC
Assembling tracks is like meditation
Make separate sections and let them dry, long sections for the upper and lower run and chort curved sections to go around the idler and sprocket. The upper run reaches from one or maybe two teeth onto the sprocket to halfway around the idler. The lower run reaches from halfway around the idler to one or maybe two teeth onto the sprocket and then a short section to close the gap on the sprocket. The track sag is adjusted so that the upper and lower runs can meet on the idler, the sprocket end is much easier. Most of the upper and lower runs can be made independently of each other. The upper run will allow for a small adjustment of track sag, the rest is taken beneath the idler and the sprocket.
/ Robin

Make separate sections and let them dry, long sections for the upper and lower run and chort curved sections to go around the idler and sprocket. The upper run reaches from one or maybe two teeth onto the sprocket to halfway around the idler. The lower run reaches from halfway around the idler to one or maybe two teeth onto the sprocket and then a short section to close the gap on the sprocket. The track sag is adjusted so that the upper and lower runs can meet on the idler, the sprocket end is much easier. Most of the upper and lower runs can be made independently of each other. The upper run will allow for a small adjustment of track sag, the rest is taken beneath the idler and the sprocket.
/ Robin

Stojkovic1987

Joined: March 26, 2015
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Posted: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 06:09 PM UTC
Just tried to assemble the first track, but saw there is too less rubber elements to connect the links!
Not because I lost tchem during the build, but that tere is not enough on frets... Wierd.
Not because I lost tchem during the build, but that tere is not enough on frets... Wierd.

Stojkovic1987

Joined: March 26, 2015
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Posted: Friday, March 31, 2017 - 11:28 PM UTC

Stojkovic1987

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Posted: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 11:44 AM UTC

Stojkovic1987

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Posted: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 - 12:10 PM UTC

jrutman

Joined: April 10, 2011
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Posted: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 - 06:08 PM UTC
Very nice work ! You don't see this version built that often !
J
J

All_You_Can_Kit

Joined: August 22, 2012
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Posted: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 - 07:09 PM UTC
IMO, you may made the number plate on the right back side looks dirtier, as dirty as another one on the left side that already looks so natural and great. Overall, the vehicle looks so impressive! thanks for sharing since I have similar kit that not yet finished since 2013..

Kind regards,
Garry



Kind regards,
Garry
Posted: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 - 07:18 PM UTC
Hi Łukasz,
Excellent SdKfz. 251/16, from the meticulous build to the camo/weathering to the figures - with those flame suits they lend the build a old-school, Jules Verne sci-fi sort of air.
Jerry
Excellent SdKfz. 251/16, from the meticulous build to the camo/weathering to the figures - with those flame suits they lend the build a old-school, Jules Verne sci-fi sort of air.
Jerry

Stojkovic1987

Joined: March 26, 2015
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Posted: Thursday, June 08, 2017 - 12:03 PM UTC
Thanks for very warm reception of my model!
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