Greeting! I'm in progress painting Gen. Mararthur for now, I've just done the face and cap. I'm wondering that which color that I should use to paint cap correctly because there are 2 colors of the eagle and details on the cap, they are black and yellow! Which is corect? and which is the color of cap cloth??? Thank you
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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2016 - 01:02 AM UTC
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Greeting! I'm in progress painting Gen. Mararthur for now, I've just done the face and cap. I'm wondering that which color that I should use to paint cap correctly because there are 2 colors of the eagle and details on the cap, they are black and yellow! Which is corect? and which is the color of cap cloth??? Thank you
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The eagle and shield would have been done in embroidered metallic gold thread, as well as the "scrambled eggs" (oak leaves) depicted on the visor. The cap color itself looks pretty good in your photo, and I think MacArthur was desiged and selected his own uniform textile style, so the khaki colors would be appropriate. The background on the visor behind the oak leaves was likely the same color as the body of the cap, although I have a similar cap with an olive green background and green cap cover-- but mine is more modern officer issue-- MacArthur would not have worn a basic issue cap. The visor edge was probably the same as the visor, but I have seen similar caps with a light tan or very light gray vinyl edging. The cap I own is black and green--- but again, mine is a more modern issue cap, and MacArthur was known for having tailor made outfits, including his headgear, as most senior general officers did in the 1930s, 40s and 50s. I suspect the instructions calling for green and black are based on more modern issue practices.
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Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2016 - 02:01 AM UTC
No idea about the colours but that is some of the best painting Ive ever seen.
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Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 10:13 PM UTC
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The eagle and shield would have been done in embroidered metallic gold thread, as well as the "scrambled eggs" (oak leaves) depicted on the visor.
That depends on the image; this image suggests otherwise, and this picture of Macarthur's hat, pipe, and sunglasses look to either be heavily tarnished or done in brown to make it less visible in the field.
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Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 11:44 PM UTC
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Quoted TextThe eagle and shield would have been done in embroidered metallic gold thread, as well as the "scrambled eggs" (oak leaves) depicted on the visor.
That depends on the image; this image suggests otherwise, and this picture of Macarthur's hat, pipe, and sunglasses look to either be heavily tarnished or done in brown to make it less visible in the field.
Just heavily tarnished. Four and Five star generals would not have been that close to the enemy to need a "field" version of this cap, which is in fact the cap worn with the dress "class A or B" or tropical garrison uniform. The gold thread tarnishes rapidly in the tropics, more so in and around the Pacific where MacArthur is most famous. No doubt this is the cap he wore daily. The "gold" thread is polished anodized brass wire wound around a central wire, so tarnishing is rather rapid. It's also likely he had several versions of the same cap to choose from-- he was a Five Star General after all, and could really wear what he wanted.
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 02:14 AM UTC
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Just heavily tarnished. Four and Five star generals would not have been that close to the enemy to need a "field" version of this cap, which is in fact the cap worn with the dress "class A or B" or tropical garrison uniform.
Given the frequency with which the "brown" scrambled eggs appears in photographs of Macarthur, I suspect that they were deliberately tarnished (or deliberately not cleaned) as part of the image he chose to present.
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 05:12 AM UTC
Deliberately tarnished? Could be or deliberate neglect-- It was not uncommon during the pre-war years for senior commanders (especially pilots) to affect that "50 mission crush" look for the class A cap, and make it look as used as possible to show they'd been around awhile. While Generalissimo of the Philippine Army prior to 1941, MacArthur designed their uniforms and his own. It was one of Eisenhower's sticking points when he worked for MacArthur in the Philippines that MacArthur seemed more concerned with how the troops looked than how they fought. And he mentioned in his letters that MacArthur held Sunday Morning "parades" in Manila. By 1940, Eisenhower was very displeased with MacArthur and sought assignment stateside, ending up at Fort Lewis WA.
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 08:07 AM UTC
thank you for your details, I choose the yellow and gold light for cap details like the boxart since this way may bring to the bust quiet salient
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 08:19 AM UTC
This is truly exceptional artistic work-- if the rest of him were there I'd swear I was looking at the General in person-- photograph him from the shoulders up and I bet no one could tell the difference between your figure and a color photo of the real MacArthur! you are a real artist!
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 09:33 AM UTC
AMAZING paint job!
Cheers,
Joe
Cheers,
Joe
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 09:43 AM UTC
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MacArthurs cap was Khaki with Gold Buillion wire embroidery that was tarnished. His cap was sun faded and heavily sweat stained. and can be seen here-Greeting! I'm in progress painting Gen. Mararthur for now, I've just done the face and cap. I'm wondering that which color that I should use to paint cap correctly because there are 2 colors of the eagle and details on the cap, they are black and yellow! Which is corect? and which is the color of cap cloth??? Thank you
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 09:46 AM UTC
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Macarthur basically invented the crush cap style during WWI as seen here-Deliberately tarnished? Could be or deliberate neglect-- It was not uncommon during the pre-war years for senior commanders (especially pilots) to affect that "50 mission crush" look for the class A cap, and make it look as used as possible to show they'd been around awhile. While Generalissimo of the Philippine Army prior to 1941, MacArthur designed their uniforms and his own. It was one of Eisenhower's sticking points when he worked for MacArthur in the Philippines that MacArthur seemed more concerned with how the troops looked than how they fought. And he mentioned in his letters that MacArthur held Sunday Morning "parades" in Manila. By 1940, Eisenhower was very displeased with MacArthur and sought assignment stateside, ending up at Fort Lewis WA.
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