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Germans Greeting Sailors
long_tom
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Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2016 - 01:32 AM UTC
Reading the Osprey book about German Women's Auxiliary Services, I've seen several photographs of sailors from sea being greeted by men and women in uniform when they reach the coast. I wondered which actual services did the greeting-Navy, Army, or whoever happened to be available at the time?

Also trying to find German sailors in shipboard work uniforms. Many of them in fact wore captured British ones.
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Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2016 - 02:36 AM UTC

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Reading the Osprey book about German Women's Auxiliary Services, I've seen several photographs of sailors from sea being greeted by men and women in uniform when they reach the coast. I wondered which actual services did the greeting-Navy, Army, or whoever happened to be available at the time?

Also trying to find German sailors in shipboard work uniforms. Many of them in fact wore captured British ones.



If you are in 1/35 scale why not use British figures without combat gear? Replace the heads with Hornet heads wearing sidecaps and presto-Kriegsmarine. You can also get Panzer crew figs earing u boat leathers. Same thing. Switch heads and there you go. There are even resin heads from Hornet with Kriegsmarine officer hats on.
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Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2016 - 07:54 PM UTC
None of the Kriegsmarine uniforms resembled British battle-dress. They were either pull-over jackets with the large square collar hanging down behind, or another double-breasted jacket. Some shore units wore uniforms similar to the army.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=kriegsmarine+uniforms&biw=1588&bih=769&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjq2Zqqk8HOAhUHmh4KHUZRABsQsAQIKQ
Granted, there are some published photos of UBoat officers wearing captured British BD, but the practice was not wide-spread. UBoat crews had a very wide latitude in their choice of clothing.
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Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 02:03 AM UTC
To answer the question about greeting, the women are probably Kriegsmarine Helferinnen, of which there were about 20000 mainly working in offices as administrative assistants.
For uniforms, the BD style drill uniform was actually quite widespread amongst U-Boat crews as there was little chance of them being mistaken for the enemy at sea! They were made up from captured stocks of BD material.
However German U-Boat leathers were also aquired from the Italian Navy by the LSSAH during its sojourn there and issued to its tank crews. Either Masterbox or Miniart (I forget which) do a set of tank crewmen wearing them. Since they are not wearing equipment they should be pretty good for U-Boat men without too many changes.
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Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 04:43 AM UTC
You're not confusing the M1944 uniform with British BD, are you? The M 1944 jacket was loosely copied from the British one:
http://www.spearheadmilitaria.com/images/v/20110708/ft70001.jpg
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Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 06:07 PM UTC
How about the U-models 1/35 range which includes lots of u-boat crew, s-boat guys, Kriegsmarine etc? Think their figures are generally very good and they are a lot better than the pretty poorly painted box cover pictures tend to suggest.

BNA has good pictures of the U-models range here:

http://www.bnamodelworld.com/u-models?alpha_filter_id=0&extra_filter_id=0&filter_id=16&scales_filter_id=0
jrutman
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Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 06:22 PM UTC

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You're not confusing the M1944 uniform with British BD, are you? The M 1944 jacket was loosely copied from the British one:
http://www.spearheadmilitaria.com/images/v/20110708/ft70001.jpg



Biggles the u boat guys actually did wear the British BD uniforms. The Osprey book on the subject has some nice pics. It is not the late war two pocket German thing at all.
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 12:05 AM UTC

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To answer the question about greeting, the women are probably Kriegsmarine Helferinnen, of which there were about 20000 mainly working in offices as administrative assistants.
For uniforms, the BD style drill uniform was actually quite widespread amongst U-Boat crews as there was little chance of them being mistaken for the enemy at sea! They were made up from captured stocks of BD material.
However German U-Boat leathers were also aquired from the Italian Navy by the LSSAH during its sojourn there and issued to its tank crews. Either Masterbox or Miniart (I forget which) do a set of tank crewmen wearing them. Since they are not wearing equipment they should be pretty good for U-Boat men without too many changes.


Fortunately MasterBox makes both versions of female uniform and Peddinghaus makes sleeve titles so the women won't be a problem. Also a woman in the ICM group of staff.
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 03:36 AM UTC
Those are service dress and mostly somewhat impractical as working dress on a submarine. Apparently the Germans were so impressed with BD after capturing stocks of it in 1940 that they manufactured a version of it (not in khaki , although captured khaki uniforms were used by crews) specifically as working dress for U-boot crews and it appears in quite a few photos. The leathers (single breasted for technical, double for seaman branch) were for protective use and impractical to wear all the time. I have a recollection that they were part of the boat's kit too, so they were not issued on an individual basis (like duffel coats in the RN).

The M1944 land forces uniform was a different thing altogether, although having some style similarities.
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