Ex-Patton Museum Collection; now Ft. Benning, Jagdpanzer IV.
(All photos Copyright Michael Koenig 2000 - 2004)
Hosted by Darren Baker
Building the Jagdpanzer IV L/70 Command
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 09:01 PM UTC
I thought you might enjoy these.
Ex-Patton Museum Collection; now Ft. Benning, Jagdpanzer IV.
(All photos Copyright Michael Koenig 2000 - 2004)
Ex-Patton Museum Collection; now Ft. Benning, Jagdpanzer IV.
(All photos Copyright Michael Koenig 2000 - 2004)
OldWarloke
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 12:39 AM UTC
Painted and installed the Track.
OldWarloke
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 12:41 AM UTC
I missed the Pic. above.
I'm all finished, here are the Pics.
I'm all finished, here are the Pics.
OldWarloke
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 12:45 AM UTC
OldWarloke
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 12:49 AM UTC
Well that was pretty quick, only 52 Pics.
All done here.
Donald
Thirian24
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 06:36 AM UTC
Looks very nice!!
OldWarloke
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2018 - 02:47 AM UTC
For 165thspc
Here is a link for all the Pics. in this build, just in case you can't view them above.
https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArouE_A-TfGGgYgK8GHdjCAIyOVVyA
Hope this helps
Donald
Here is a link for all the Pics. in this build, just in case you can't view them above.
https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArouE_A-TfGGgYgK8GHdjCAIyOVVyA
Hope this helps
Donald
OldWarloke
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2018 - 02:55 AM UTC
The Pics. show up for me but probably wont for you, I tested the link at the end and it works for me let me know if it doesn't work for you and i'll try again.
Donald
Donald
Petro
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2018 - 10:28 AM UTC
The link works by the way.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2018 - 10:41 AM UTC
The single link at the bottom of page 2 works but no model photos post into the thread itself. (For me at least.)
The Patton Museum photos are the only ones that show up but thanks for the link as a work around.
The Patton Museum photos are the only ones that show up but thanks for the link as a work around.
OldWarloke
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2018 - 12:29 PM UTC
I'm sorry guys , but I tried.
It's funny, though that the pics. always disappear after a while.
I'll have to start placing links at the end of my builds so you can at least access the pics.
Donald
It's funny, though that the pics. always disappear after a while.
I'll have to start placing links at the end of my builds so you can at least access the pics.
Donald
165thspc
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 03:48 AM UTC
Donald, I am just reposting one of your images here so everyone can see you handiwork. Hope you don't mind.
Well done effort - much better than my first attempt!
Well done effort - much better than my first attempt!
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 03:51 AM UTC
I tend to have a soft spot for this model. The Jagdpanzer IV was the first armor model I even built way back in the 90's somewhere.
165thspc
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 05:59 AM UTC
I put a question to the former curator of the Patton Museum, Charles R. Lemons just this morning:
QUESTION:
Charles - an historic Patton Museum question please . . . .
Is the camo on the Jagdpanzer IV by any chance original?
If not, just how far back do those patterns and colors go. Were they a close repaint to the original?
RESPONSE:
"Not original - but I think based on the original pattern. It was originally captured by the Brits in Normandy and there were excellent photographs taken of the vehicle from all directions when the Brits tested and examined the vehicle in 1944. The images are pretty well published and the vehicle was eventually repainted in the correct colors and pattern before we (the Patton Museum) got it."
QUESTION:
Charles - an historic Patton Museum question please . . . .
Is the camo on the Jagdpanzer IV by any chance original?
If not, just how far back do those patterns and colors go. Were they a close repaint to the original?
RESPONSE:
"Not original - but I think based on the original pattern. It was originally captured by the Brits in Normandy and there were excellent photographs taken of the vehicle from all directions when the Brits tested and examined the vehicle in 1944. The images are pretty well published and the vehicle was eventually repainted in the correct colors and pattern before we (the Patton Museum) got it."
m4sherman
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 11:01 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I put a question to the former curator of the Patton Museum, Charles R. Lemons just this morning:
QUESTION:
Charles - an historic Patton Museum question please . . . .
Is the camo on the Jagdpanzer IV by any chance original?
If not, just how far back do those patterns and colors go. Were they a close repaint to the original?
RESPONSE:
"Not original - but I think based on the original pattern. It was originally captured by the Brits in Normandy and there were excellent photographs taken of the vehicle from all directions when the Brits tested and examined the vehicle in 1944. The images are pretty well published and the vehicle was eventually repainted in the correct colors and pattern before we (the Patton Museum) got it."
They must have their Jagd's mixed up. The one in your pictures is a later version. Three return rollers is the give away. Normandy versions would have four. I wonder if they mean France, rather than Normandy.
Great pictures, and nice model.
165thspc
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 11:10 AM UTC
I'm not going to get in the middle of this, I am just trying to help. I asked the question and then reported the answer. The Patton Jagd (now at Benning) has a well recorded and documented history.
Normandy isn't part of France?????
Normandy isn't part of France?????
nsjohn
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 11:39 AM UTC
it is certainly a Jagdpanzer IV L70A which was based on a Panzer IV Ausf J chassis, hence the three return rollers. According to the latest Osprey Duel book Cromwell v Jagdpanzer IV production commenced in August 1944. At that time the Allies were still trying to breakout from Normandy, and therefore it is just possible that both of you are right.
m4sherman
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 05:40 PM UTC
I am very curious about the vehicle, and this is why.
It is a Jagdpanzer IV with no zimmerit (dropped from production in September 1944), no muffler and metal rimmed road wheels. Features common to vehicles seen in late November and December. By that time Normandy was way in the rear.
Perhaps it was tested in Normandy and given to the US from there. I looked for it online and came up empty.
It is a Jagdpanzer IV with no zimmerit (dropped from production in September 1944), no muffler and metal rimmed road wheels. Features common to vehicles seen in late November and December. By that time Normandy was way in the rear.
Perhaps it was tested in Normandy and given to the US from there. I looked for it online and came up empty.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 08:27 PM UTC
I too came up empty - only found a single photo of this vehicle in British hands with no other related info.
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