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Libyan "Arab Spring" Oddities
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 01:48 AM UTC
Excellent camouflage for blending into the environment - in Disney World...



Who said fighting can't be comfortable?





ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 02:00 AM UTC
Do we still have that BMP-1 turret in the backyard? I've got an idea...



Do we still have that AK-230 naval gun in the backyard? I've got an idea...#1.



Do we still have that AK-230 naval gun in the backyard? I've got an idea...#2.







rfbaer
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 03:49 AM UTC
The last one actually looks workable.....
MikeyBugs95
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 03:52 AM UTC
The last one looks pretty cool. Have any more pictures of that? I've got an idea...
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 12:44 PM UTC

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The last one looks pretty cool. Have any more pictures of that? I've got an idea...



Nope. I've got of #1 though...





ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 12:51 PM UTC
Hmmmm...I've got an idea...



Voila!






Bonaparte84
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 05:02 PM UTC

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Hmmmm...I've got an idea...



Voila!









Awesome pictures you provided there. Makes me wonder how they "aim" these air/surface-missiles. They don't exactly strike me as modern Wernher von Brauns, if you know what I mean...
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 05:12 PM UTC

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Hmmmm...I've got an idea...



Voila!









Awesome pictures you provided there. Makes me wonder how they "aim" these air/surface-missiles. They don't exactly strike me as modern Wernher von Brauns, if you know what I mean...



These missiles are probably used as (extremely inaccurate) artillery pieces. You've gotta be lucky to hit anything smaller than a town...
HeavyArty
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 05:49 PM UTC
What I find "very interesting" is that these "Russian missiles" have all English warnings and shipping data on the transport cases. Hmmm.

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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 06:01 PM UTC
The first 6 digits of the serial number (or whatever it is) are the same as on this CAD-image:

Found near the bottom of this page:
https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2016/01/10/

Maybe it's only a case of reused boxes .....
or boxes intended for export from Russia

Two missiles in Poland (image from 1991)


/ Robin

See post by Gareth below for more info on arms smuggling.
As long as there is money to be made there will always be someone who is willing to arrange a deal ....
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 06:10 PM UTC

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What I find "very interesting" is that these "Russian missiles" have all English warnings and shipping data on the transport cases. Hmmm.




AFAIK that wasn't uncommon for Soviet (Russian) weapon shipments destined outside the Eastern Block.
GarethM
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 06:34 PM UTC

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What I find "very interesting" is that these "Russian missiles" have all English warnings and shipping data on the transport cases. Hmmm.




A number of arms were found in crates with markings that were intended to throw nosy customers officers off the scent. For instance you might see a 107mm rocket labelled "Tractor parts." They were probably intended for sale to a rebel group that Gadaffi sympathized with.


http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/qaddafis-arms-bazaar-slowly-exposed/?_r=0
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 06:40 PM UTC

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What I find "very interesting" is that these "Russian missiles" have all English warnings and shipping data on the transport cases. Hmmm.




A number of arms were found in crates with markings that were intended to throw nosy customers officers off the scent. For instance you might see a 107mm rocket labelled "Tractor parts." They were probably intended for sale to a rebel group that Gadaffi sympathized with.


http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/qaddafis-arms-bazaar-slowly-exposed/?_r=0



https://piie.com/blogs/north-korea-witness-transformation/north-korea-arms-libya
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 08:06 PM UTC









Resupply vehicle



Just a few more Libyan technicals here

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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 02:42 AM UTC
The last one is a Nissan Micra limited edition "Flying martyr"....
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 02:53 AM UTC

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The last one is a Nissan Micra limited edition "Flying martyr"....



The strings that should connect the steering wheel to the control surfaces of the missiles are missing
Vicious
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 03:30 AM UTC

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The last one is a Nissan Micra limited edition "Flying martyr"....



The strings that should connect the steering wheel to the control surfaces of the missiles are missing



Becose is the last tecnology Fly by wire!...
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ModernTankmodeler
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 03:46 AM UTC

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Excellent camouflage for blending into the environment - in Disney World...



Who said fighting can't be comfortable?








are there more pictures of this pick up?

ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 01:47 PM UTC
Unfortunately I don't have any more, but I think guessing the rest of the camo isn't that difficult at all...
jasegreene
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 02:33 PM UTC
One of the best sites I can personally recommend would be "Oryx blog",there is plenty of great info there on Libya,Syria,and most everything else in the Mideast with some great photos.
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 09:33 PM UTC
Whooooooaaaaaaaaa......Look'em all those Toyotas!!!





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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2016 - 04:54 AM UTC
I've been to Disney World with the family. Proper camo for DW would be images of way overpriced crappy food and dollar bills flying out of one's wallet.
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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2016 - 10:32 AM UTC
Another nice thread you started Israel. It will sure give e ideas of future builds
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