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German Armor ?
straightedge
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 10:37 AM UTC
I was wondering if anybody knew if Badger armor yellow would work for the German dark yellow. Thank You in advance Straightedge
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 04:24 AM UTC
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They say the german armor left the factorys with a redishbrown primer and a dark yellow base coat, or does everybody just paint their tanks tan.I was wondering if anybody knew if Badger armor yellow would work for the German dark yellow. Thank You in advance Straightedge
Teacher
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 04:36 AM UTC
Er....I don't know anybody who 'just paints their tanks tan'?
Vinnie
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 09:29 AM UTC
I don't know either Teacher but Italeri said the colors are Flat tan, European Green, and Military Brown for the camo paint job on the Marder 3, but all the articals said the base color is dark yellow-Dunkelgelb in German, and I've read that they found some tanks that didn't even get the chassis painted that they were still with their primer coat of a dark red, or described as a dark redishbrown primer.
straightedge
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 08:39 AM UTC
I guess nobody knows about the dark yellow base coats on German armor, or should I go with the tan that Italeri suggests
flitzer
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 11:21 PM UTC
All references I've seen suggest the dark yellow...
Xtracolour do the German colours straight out of the tin, including dark yellow.
Hannants are the stockists on-line.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
Xtracolour do the German colours straight out of the tin, including dark yellow.
Hannants are the stockists on-line.
Cheers
Peter
:-)
straightedge
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:50 AM UTC
I wished I could, but Hannants is across the pond from me, and not to mention the exspense, and time involved, we tried to find what I could at our local shop, and the only yellows they had were Badger Armor yellow, and in the 1/4 oz. jars from Testors they had a Zinc Chromate 1184 Zinc Chrome which looks like a dark yellow with a greenish tint, but it might dry different, and they didn't have anything in Tamiya paints that looked yellow, but I was hoping that somebody would know if they tried any of these paints. The hobby shop said he could get another color within the week, but all he deals in is Badger, Testors, and the MM paints, oh and Tamiya, non of these paints have a German dark yellow. Like I said Testors destributes Italeri, so they say 1567 MM flat tan, so that must mean MM doesn't have the dark yellow if they recommend Tan, but I appreciate your idea Flitzer, and when time and money is on my side I'll be able to do that, but now its not.
flitzer
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 01:10 AM UTC
Hi straightedge,
Alternative if you don't mind enamels...
Humbrol say to use No 83 Matt ochre.
Don't know how accurate it is?
Cheers
AND good hunting.
Peter
Alternative if you don't mind enamels...
Humbrol say to use No 83 Matt ochre.
Don't know how accurate it is?
Cheers
AND good hunting.
Peter
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:05 AM UTC
this no. 83 Matt Ochre is this the testors 1/4 oz. bottle?
flitzer
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:10 AM UTC
Hi again...
no its from the Humbrol standard range of enamels.
I'm sure more experienced "Trackies" will be along soon with better advise.
Cheers again SE
Peter
:-)
no its from the Humbrol standard range of enamels.
I'm sure more experienced "Trackies" will be along soon with better advise.
Cheers again SE
Peter
:-)
straightedge
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:35 AM UTC
I'm sorry, I thought they only made acrylics, but then again I have no idea where I can get humbrol local, I do have some real old Floquil reefer yellow, that I got when I bought some old HO train stuff off this guy, but looking at it, it seems lighter then the armor yellow, but thanks again.
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:35 AM UTC
Straightedge,
I have re-read this thread and I'm not completely sure what you're asking, but from what I can gather you're looking for the correct shade of dark yellow for German WWII armour? From one of your replies I gather that your local model shop CAN get Tamiya? If that IS the case then you need to ask him to get you Tamiya XF60. If you pre-shade your model with Nato black first then a very close match should be achieved. The german dark yellow referred to is more of a 'sandy' colour, but is actually labelled 'dark yellow' by Tamiya. Hope this helps?
Vinnie
I have re-read this thread and I'm not completely sure what you're asking, but from what I can gather you're looking for the correct shade of dark yellow for German WWII armour? From one of your replies I gather that your local model shop CAN get Tamiya? If that IS the case then you need to ask him to get you Tamiya XF60. If you pre-shade your model with Nato black first then a very close match should be achieved. The german dark yellow referred to is more of a 'sandy' colour, but is actually labelled 'dark yellow' by Tamiya. Hope this helps?
Vinnie
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:48 AM UTC
yes it does Vinnie, I sure do appreciate it, is that nato black the same as xf-1, or is it a different black
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 03:10 AM UTC
It is a "different" black, Tamiya # XF-69. It is just a touch grayer than regular flat black.
Mike
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 03:29 AM UTC
Thank You Mike I'm glad you told me, cause last week I bought the XF-1, and to get that color I'd haft to buy two different paints, so if I go with the original it looks like a sandy color then I only haft to buy one more color, see this month I already spent all my money on paints, and I was supposed to be buying these models from this guy a couple a month that he is holding for me, cause this is getting real exspensive and I still don't have enough to put one model together yet, but now I know what I got to do, so thank you a for letting me know.
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 03:47 AM UTC
Straightedge, if it's a problem then don't buy Nato black, just go with the normal XF-1 flat black, it'll still work as a pre-shade.
Vinnie
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 04:29 AM UTC
Now Vinnie, that is the best news yet, I could squeeze maybe one more color out of my buget, but not two, sense I can use that then that is great. Thank You many times over.
Kerry
Kerry