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Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
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Paint Shaker

j76lr

Joined: September 22, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 07:10 PM UTC
can anyone recommend where to buy them ?
Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 07:43 PM UTC
Micromark or Amazon.
Regards,
Eric
Regards,
Eric

matt


Joined: February 28, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 08:01 PM UTC
If you have a jig or reciprocating saw there's another method:
http://tabletopteek.blogspot.com/2012/07/diy-paint-shaker_25.html
http://tabletopteek.blogspot.com/2012/07/diy-paint-shaker_25.html

j76lr

Joined: September 22, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 08:16 PM UTC
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If you have a jig or reciprocating saw there's another method:
http://tabletopteek.blogspot.com/2012/07/diy-paint-shaker_25.html
lol thats clever

justsendit

Joined: February 24, 2014
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 08:27 PM UTC
Genius!😄🍺

Scarred

Joined: March 11, 2016
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 09:02 PM UTC
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My DC powered one was destroyed in our house fire so I got an AC powered one from Wally World. They sell replacemnt straps also.can anyone recommend where to buy them ?

Scarred

Joined: March 11, 2016
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 09:22 PM UTC
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Ammo of mig has their own stainless steel agitator balls so they should work with all types paint Amig8003.Quoted TextMy DC powered one was destroyed in our house fire so I got an AC powered one from Wally World. They sell replacemnt straps also.can anyone recommend where to buy them ?

barra733

Joined: January 03, 2015
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 09:26 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextAmmo of mig has their own stainless steel agitator balls so they should work with all types paint Amig8003.Quoted TextMy DC powered one was destroyed in our house fire so I got an AC powered one from Wally World. They sell replacemnt straps also.can anyone recommend where to buy them ?
Buy them from ebay - search ball bearings, same thing only much cheaper.

Scarred

Joined: March 11, 2016
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 09:55 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextAmmo of mig has their own stainless steel agitator balls so they should work with all types paint Amig8003.Quoted TextMy DC powered one was destroyed in our house fire so I got an AC powered one from Wally World. They sell replacemnt straps also.can anyone recommend where to buy them ?
Buy them from ebay - search ball bearings, same thing only much cheaper.
Be warned that you might not get quality stainless and get a chrome plated steel bearing instead that will rust in your paint. You get what you pay for buy cheap get garbage. Test any ball buy putting it in salt water for a week.
Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 11:07 PM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextQuoted TextAmmo of mig has their own stainless steel agitator balls so they should work with all types paint Amig8003.Quoted TextMy DC powered one was destroyed in our house fire so I got an AC powered one from Wally World. They sell replacemnt straps also.can anyone recommend where to buy them ?
Buy them from ebay - search ball bearings, same thing only much cheaper.
Be warned that you might not get quality stainless and get a chrome plated steel bearing instead that will rust in your paint. You get what you pay for buy cheap get garbage. Test any ball buy putting it in salt water for a week.
Very true. Worth the money in this case.


Vicious

Joined: September 04, 2015
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 01:11 AM UTC
Interestingly the shaker, i have done a mixer using a electric toothbrush,i can without any problems or spills also Vallejo without opening the dropper and i ad 8mm marine grade stainless steel SAE 316 or also haematite beads are good,heavy,cheap and dont rust
I found AK,Ammo,etc Bearing balls to small and not heavy enough,and for the same price a can buy more and bigger size
I found AK,Ammo,etc Bearing balls to small and not heavy enough,and for the same price a can buy more and bigger size

j76lr

Joined: September 22, 2006
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 02:29 AM UTC
how do you use a electric toothbrush ??

Vicious

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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 02:46 AM UTC
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how do you use a electric toothbrush ??
It is easier if I make two pictures and post here,works a bit' like the Badger one but is also a "multitool"

Vicious

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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 04:56 AM UTC
This is my mixer/sander DIY done from a cheap brush, the rod steel is that there originally inside the brush head, I merely chop the plastic and bend the tip,it's fine to mix Humbrol, Tamiya , Lifecolor, MM etc ... for not spill and splashes i took a cap of an old jar and made a hole so you can mix a closed jar, I replaced the original rod for Vallejo with a longer one made of brass and bending a little 'less than the tip enters without problems in the dropper bottle and because i add always a bearing balls or 2 help to mix well the bottom, in an original head I cut the bristles of the toothbrush so i can "glue" with Velcro some sandpaper discs to be used for sanding.




Enigma1

Joined: February 22, 2010
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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 - 05:24 AM UTC
I received my Robard shaker today. I did purchase the AC model. Yes it does walk across the work bench, but I used 4 pieces of double face mounting tape and it stayed in place. I shook up 3 bottles of AK, and 3 bottles of Vallejo ( a couple of 60 ml also) each for 2 minutes. From there the colors went to the airbrush. All had the right mix and sprayed perfect. I guess now we will see how long it lasts.



HK_AFV

Joined: April 25, 2009
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Posted: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 05:04 PM UTC
Received my Robart 410 Shaker (battery version) today and gave a try with various paint bottles. Vallejo, Mr Color/Mr Hobby, Mig Ammo, Tamiya all work well and the paints were mixed thoroughly. However, there are a few observations that I would like to share.
(1) Even with the weight of 4 Type D batteries, the shaker still moves around while turned on.
(2) The design for battery change is not user-friendly at all. Need to remove 4 screws securing the bottom plate in order to insert/replace batteries. And the screws were screwed into 4 plastic shaft only, not sure how long that will last after repeated battery change. (see pics)
(3) The rubber strap is a bit tight for the Tamiya acrylic bottles, have to pull hard and secure it on the last hole.

Overall I am satisfied but not sure how long it will last. If I can choose again, I will go with the AC version instead.
Paul
(1) Even with the weight of 4 Type D batteries, the shaker still moves around while turned on.
(2) The design for battery change is not user-friendly at all. Need to remove 4 screws securing the bottom plate in order to insert/replace batteries. And the screws were screwed into 4 plastic shaft only, not sure how long that will last after repeated battery change. (see pics)
(3) The rubber strap is a bit tight for the Tamiya acrylic bottles, have to pull hard and secure it on the last hole.
Overall I am satisfied but not sure how long it will last. If I can choose again, I will go with the AC version instead.
Paul


j76lr

Joined: September 22, 2006
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Posted: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 06:10 PM UTC
I had a old rechargeable reciprocating saw . I us that it works great !!

Jcondemichtoy

Joined: September 27, 2017
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Posted: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 08:26 PM UTC
I got my Robart Battery model.
I use Procell D batteries (Duracell Professional Line - Hospital grade) and due to weight it does not move at all.
My set of 4 D's are lasting 2 months on heavy usage.
Great deal, through www.michtoy.com .
Best
Julian
I use Procell D batteries (Duracell Professional Line - Hospital grade) and due to weight it does not move at all.
My set of 4 D's are lasting 2 months on heavy usage.
Great deal, through www.michtoy.com .
Best
Julian

Mrclark7

Joined: June 04, 2017
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 09:49 AM UTC
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Quoted TextI got a robards shaker and it works well, you just have add an agitator to the paint. I used little stainless balls that I got years ago, 1 or 2 in the bottle and then a session in the shaker.
Just have to make sure you've got no-kidding stainless steel balls (so to speak...) if you're using acrylics. I added what I thought were SS balls from a bearing race and found out they where just plain steel when they started rusting at the bottom of the bottle.
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I learned that this same way also


Kraftstoff

Joined: September 06, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 04:44 AM UTC

Scarred

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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 11:18 AM UTC
I've been using the Robart for a couple of decades. I'll put agitators in most paints, especially if they've been sitting for a while. Flats will settle out and flat enamels settle out pretty quick, same with metallics and if they sit for a while it can take quite a bit to get the pigments to mix.

j76lr

Joined: September 22, 2006
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Posted: Friday, September 07, 2018 - 09:55 AM UTC
how long do you leave it on the shaker ?

Scarred

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Posted: Friday, September 07, 2018 - 11:01 AM UTC
With a little agitator in the paint? The longest I've left it in the shaker was a 3-4 minutes max. Paint that had settled out for a long period I'd let it run about a minute, stop for a couple more and do this a few times to get it smooth. Test it with a tooth pick if I still see small chunks it goes in for another session.

deerstalker36

Joined: May 16, 2010
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Posted: Sunday, September 09, 2018 - 11:00 PM UTC
Jigsaw with a hand clamp for me, and the ammo steel balls. works wonders every time

j76lr

Joined: September 22, 2006
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Posted: Sunday, September 09, 2018 - 11:04 PM UTC
thanks guys
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