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Black Dog: Vehicle Upgrade Sets
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 06:20 AM UTC


Black Dog makes available an array of new products, and top off the list are accessories to detail various vehicles.

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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 06:27 AM UTC
Woo hoo, a 6x6 Rover, I'm in for at least 2
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 06:36 AM UTC
The jeep fire truck looks good, but it is not a CJ2A. On the WWII Willys the gas tank filler cap is under the seat and the seat hinges forward for access. On the CJ2A the gas tank is under the seat but the gas cap is on the left side inset in the body and the seat is fixed. None the less I think there were WWII jeeps converted. Just use the stock kit front grill.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 08:09 AM UTC
Rover is certainly very interesting, but knowing the price policy of the Black Dog, I think that the price will be very high (
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 08:50 AM UTC
50 Euro for the big set
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 09:12 AM UTC
I would very much like to get my hands on one of those 6x6 Land Rovers.

I have been compiling as much info as I can for years in the hopes I could finally build a reasonably accurate model of both the LRPV and the standard 6x6, since you ca'nt easily convert a standard Land Rover to the 6x6.

It would be good to see if Black Dog got it right, and save myself the hassle of trying to do it myself.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 12:09 PM UTC
Hello Pave-hawk, maybe I can help you with that, I've a 200+ photo walk around of the 6 wheeler troop carrier,fitters vehicle, and the flatbed version. If anyone is interested in it, let me know and I will send you a disc.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 12:35 PM UTC

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Hello Pave-hawk, maybe I can help you with that, I've a 200+ photo walk around of the 6 wheeler troop carrier,fitters vehicle, and the flatbed version. If anyone is interested in it, let me know and I will send you a disc.


Definitely interested, have sent you a PM.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 12:44 PM UTC
There are a few more pics of the LRPV kit on Hobbyeasy website :

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/ohdf7pguwpzutne9oqmk.html

H.P.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 12:53 PM UTC

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There are a few more pics of the LRPV kit on Hobbyeasy :

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/ohdf7pguwpzutne9oqmk.html

H.P.


Hard to tell in detail but the chassis definitely looks wrong.
Looks like they took a standard 4x4 chassis and just extended it, with coil suspension for the rear two axles. Potentially disappointing
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 08:48 PM UTC
Looking forward to the jep fire truck. I hope they make a basic 6x6 cargo/guntractor version of the Land Rover, I would definitely be in for one of those.Regards Jason
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 09:27 PM UTC
Pave Hawk, Mouse House had a set of "plans" for the LRPV, not sure if they have them at the moment, but Jason Miller (Aussie Armour) is a regular contributor here, he may be able to help you out. ( sorry if I spelt your name wrong Jason)
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 09:33 PM UTC
Where was this fire fighting jeep used? Airfields? Was it also used by the British forces?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 10:59 PM UTC
Are those dragon or javelin missles
Smokeyr67
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Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - 11:04 PM UTC
It should be javelins Gogs, I dont think we've bought (or leased) dragons
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 12:28 AM UTC

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It should be javelins Gogs, I dont think we've bought (or leased) dragons

Should be, but those are Dragons...
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 12:52 AM UTC
The Jeeps appears to be fitted with Howe or Boyer firefighting equipment like these :



http://www.ewillys.com/2014/09/30/1947-cj-2a-howe-fire-jeep-st-joseph-mo-ebay/

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1949-WILLYS-JEEP-CJ2A-FIRE-TRUCK-66146

More info here :

https://cj3b.info/Fire/FireCJ2AHistory.html

H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 12:59 AM UTC
I have to defer to you Vodnik, my eyes are old and my screen is small:)
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 01:01 AM UTC
And the pers weapons are not exactly correct, dont get me wrong, Steyrs are welcome, but in this buggy m4's are more appropriate
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 01:22 AM UTC

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Where was this fire fighting jeep used? Airfields? Was it also used by the British forces?


Google WWII fire jeeps. There are pictures of these in use, all post WWII from what I could tell. Most are based on the CJ2A, but there is one in Germany based on the WWII Willys or Ford. I could not find any in use in the UK, but that does not mean they were not there.

These seemed to be used as a general purpose light fire truck. The more I look at it, them more I like it.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 02:08 AM UTC
Here's a Jeep operated by Korean Firefighters at Pohang, Korea, 1952 :



Another one belonging to the Seoul City Fire Headquarters
(Sept 1953) :



from :

http://www.firetrucks-atwar.com/k.html

H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 02:59 AM UTC

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Pave Hawk, Mouse House had a set of "plans" for the LRPV, not sure if they have them at the moment, but Jason Miller (Aussie Armour) is a regular contributor here, he may be able to help you out. ( sorry if I spelt your name wrong Jason)


Already bought those, one of the first things I did. Good for the shape of the body and exterior, but had no chassis detail.

I do have a basic chassis drawing, but it takes me a while to try and use the few dimensions I do have to figure out the rest of the dimensions that I don't have.

Last night I also managed to find the few photos I took of the busted LRPV from the Australian war memorial. Wish I had taken a few more detailed ones but they had alarm sensors if you stood too close.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 03:14 AM UTC

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50 Euro for the big set


Where did you see it for that price? I'm seeing €86 on HobbyEasy plus post.....
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 03:29 AM UTC
I googled "Black Dog LRPV", then surfed, Im sure it was their e shop..
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - 04:14 AM UTC

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The jeep fire truck looks good, but it is not a CJ2A. On the WWII Willys the gas tank filler cap is under the seat and the seat hinges forward for access. On the CJ2A the gas tank is under the seat but the gas cap is on the left side inset in the body and the seat is fixed. None the less I think there were WWII jeeps converted. Just use the stock kit front grill.


Would you know of full CJ2A kits in 1/35?
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