The groundwork is coming along nicely. Since you are depicting a sniper team, I would suggest placing more vegetation in front of the team or move them so they don't present themselves as a tempting target. The light colored rock that Wayne mentioned is a target indicator that a sniper would avoid being near if at all possible. The diorama is still a good one, can be even better if you look at it through the eyes of a sniper. I am looking at it from a perspective having served as a Recon Marine and as an Army Sniper. Even if he is engaging someone from a distance at the spur of the moment by identifying a target while the team was moving and deemed it necessary to stop to engage the target, they would not expose themselves that much. Just something to consider. Other than that, keep up the great work.
Cheers,
James
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USMC Sniper team, Vietnam 1/35
ReconTL3-1
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Posted: Monday, August 14, 2017 - 01:06 AM UTC
Venko555
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Posted: Monday, August 14, 2017 - 10:05 AM UTC
There will be more vegetation for cover, I'm just waiting for some more plants-ferns etc., to arrive and will continue
Regards,
Venelin
Regards,
Venelin
chris1
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Posted: Monday, August 14, 2017 - 12:31 PM UTC
Hey Venelin,
Love your Vietnam figures and settings you have a talent.
For the spotter can I what your flesh mix is?
As I've got the D-Toys Vietnam War US Marine Sniper (1/35)on order and the Legends sniper team in Ghillie suits on the bench I'd like to do at least one as an African American.
TIA
Chris
Love your Vietnam figures and settings you have a talent.
For the spotter can I what your flesh mix is?
As I've got the D-Toys Vietnam War US Marine Sniper (1/35)on order and the Legends sniper team in Ghillie suits on the bench I'd like to do at least one as an African American.
TIA
Chris
Venko555
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Posted: Monday, August 14, 2017 - 12:57 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hey Venelin,
Love your Vietnam figures and settings you have a talent.
For the spotter can I what your flesh mix is?
As I've got the D-Toys Vietnam War US Marine Sniper (1/35)on order and the Legends sniper team in Ghillie suits on the bench I'd like to do at least one as an African American.
TIA
Chris
Thanks, Chris!
For the spotter I used those three Vallejo colors-a dark brown, medium brown and highlight flesh for mixing different shades. But you can use other brands. Mixing depends on what skin you want-lighter or darker brown.
V
chris1
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 04:11 AM UTC
Hi again Venelin,
Cheers for that,it didn't occur to me that you would be using acrylics.For some reason I thought you used oils, I'm an old school oil and enamel type.
So maybe I need to move into the 21st Century and pick up some.
Thanks again.
Chris
Cheers for that,it didn't occur to me that you would be using acrylics.For some reason I thought you used oils, I'm an old school oil and enamel type.
So maybe I need to move into the 21st Century and pick up some.
Thanks again.
Chris
Venko555
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 10:56 AM UTC
Hi Chris,
You can use oils, of course, I'm just more comfortable with acrylics.
Venelin
You can use oils, of course, I'm just more comfortable with acrylics.
Venelin
Venko555
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 - 03:11 PM UTC
Adding some ferns:
PolishBrigade12
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 04:35 AM UTC
Excellente!
justsendit
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 08:46 PM UTC
Outstanding work!
I'm no expert, but wouldn't the shooter have face paint smeared on his exposed skin? A lesson he might have learned from his Brother from another Mother. Notice how well the spotter blends into the terrain due to his natural skin tone.
Regardless, this is an amazing vignette. Thank you for sharing the process.
Cheers!🍺
—mike
I'm no expert, but wouldn't the shooter have face paint smeared on his exposed skin? A lesson he might have learned from his Brother from another Mother. Notice how well the spotter blends into the terrain due to his natural skin tone.
Regardless, this is an amazing vignette. Thank you for sharing the process.
Cheers!🍺
—mike
ReconTL3-1
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 09:05 PM UTC
Looking even better, Venelin!
Adding the vegetation to the front side of the log is making quite a difference.
Very nice diorama and nice rice paddies, too.
Cheers,
James
Adding the vegetation to the front side of the log is making quite a difference.
Very nice diorama and nice rice paddies, too.
Cheers,
James
Venko555
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 10:54 AM UTC
Thanks!
The vegetation really makes difference providing cover for the snipers. I will put some more like tall grass, palm leaves, but not too much.
Venelin
The vegetation really makes difference providing cover for the snipers. I will put some more like tall grass, palm leaves, but not too much.
Venelin
BUTA46
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 03:28 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Thanks!
The vegetation really makes difference providing cover for the snipers. I will put some more like tall grass, palm leaves, but not too much.
Venelin
Just a thought, but, consider making the viewer find the sniper and spotter instead of spotlighting them?
deerstalker36
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 04:04 PM UTC
Great Dio, one point i'd pick up though is the state of the guys boots and lower trousers. they'd have a bit more of the local soil pick up rather than looking parade ground shiny
Venko555
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 04:12 PM UTC
They have dirt on the boots and the trousers 
jrutman
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It is getting better and better !
J
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Great job on the figure. For anyone else doing one I would suggest heating it a bit to slightly change the pose.
In the black and white photos at the beginning of the post you can see the shooter's upper arm resting on his knee. This is as it should be. The figure has bone on bone - elbow to knee contact. That's not taught nor is it conducive to accurate shots.
Not necessarily an operator. Just slept in a few Holiday Inn Expresses.
In the black and white photos at the beginning of the post you can see the shooter's upper arm resting on his knee. This is as it should be. The figure has bone on bone - elbow to knee contact. That's not taught nor is it conducive to accurate shots.
Not necessarily an operator. Just slept in a few Holiday Inn Expresses.
amoz02t
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Posted: Friday, September 01, 2017 - 06:39 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Great job on the figure. For anyone else doing one I would suggest heating it a bit to slightly change the pose.
In the black and white photos at the beginning of the post you can see the shooter's upper arm resting on his knee. This is as it should be. The figure has bone on bone - elbow to knee contact. That's not taught nor is it conducive to accurate shots.
Not necessarily an operator. Just slept in a few Holiday Inn Expresses.
18B is back! Good to see your posting and trust all is good? All the best
ReconTL3-1
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Posted: Saturday, September 02, 2017 - 06:12 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Great job on the figure. For anyone else doing one I would suggest heating it a bit to slightly change the pose.
In the black and white photos at the beginning of the post you can see the shooter's upper arm resting on his knee. This is as it should be. The figure has bone on bone - elbow to knee contact. That's not taught nor is it conducive to accurate shots.
Not necessarily an operator. Just slept in a few Holiday Inn Expresses.
That was a good catch in regards to arm placement, but that is one of the limitations of building a figure as it is manufactured rather that converting figures. I'm not so sure just heating the arm would do the job to correct it though, but it may. I haven't tried to do that with a resin arm. I think one could make a slight addition to the upper arm with some putty. I drilled holes in the arm and the place where the arm meets the body and inserted a small piece of copper wire to lengthen the upper arm a bit and tied it in with some Magic Sculpt putty. It seemed to still be OK anatomically in regards to arm length while producing the proper placement of the bottom part of the upper arm on the knee. I also made a very small addition to that part of the flak jacket. I had taken pictures of it in progress, but my old laptop crapped out and those pictures (and many others) were on it and are lost forever. Perhaps I will build another one for me as that one was for a friend of mine.
Glad to see you posting on Armorama again, Robert. Your insight based on your experiences has helped many a modeler.
Cheers,
James
strongarden
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Posted: Friday, September 08, 2017 - 11:09 AM UTC
Great stuff here, really love this site. That is, when I can actually get the time to visit! 
Anyways, this is outstanding progress Venelin. Just when I was imagining what's up w/ that open area to the left of the spotter, poof! you drop in some nice bamboo stands. And using a technique so simple yet somehow I never imagined it! Doh!
Cheers
Dave
Anyways, this is outstanding progress Venelin. Just when I was imagining what's up w/ that open area to the left of the spotter, poof! you drop in some nice bamboo stands. And using a technique so simple yet somehow I never imagined it! Doh!
Cheers
Dave
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Thank you all for the comments and suggestions!
I will add some tall grass here and there, also the rifle straps, almost forgot them
Regards,
I will add some tall grass here and there, also the rifle straps, almost forgot them
Regards,
Venko555
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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 - 11:53 AM UTC
Adding some tall grass (I really like it) and other vegetation-palm leaves etc.
Now I think the team is better covered in the bush
Thanks for watching!
Venelin
Now I think the team is better covered in the bush
Thanks for watching!
Venelin
Venko555
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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 - 02:44 PM UTC
As suggested, I added facial camo on the sniper
I recommend using oils for this-easier to blend, in my case Olive green and Field grey
Regards,
I recommend using oils for this-easier to blend, in my case Olive green and Field grey
Regards,
j76lr
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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 - 07:27 PM UTC
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Venelin, I don't think USMC wore camo pants in Vietnam. As far as I know, ERDL camo was issued to Recon and Spec Ops operatives only.
Mario
We ,all branches,wore either the olive drab jungle fatigues or the "cammies " I was USAF in Da Nang and i was issued
both `My eyes arent as good as they used to be but they look standard issue.
j76lr
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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 - 07:31 PM UTC
GREAT JOB !!
Venko555
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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 - 07:40 PM UTC
Lou, thank you for the comment!
I found several pictures of marines with ERDL camo and flak vests, so I decided to paint the spotter with ERDL and the sniper with standard OG uniform, for variety and visual interest
Close shots of the sniper with the "make-up" and without the helmet:
Venelin
I found several pictures of marines with ERDL camo and flak vests, so I decided to paint the spotter with ERDL and the sniper with standard OG uniform, for variety and visual interest
Close shots of the sniper with the "make-up" and without the helmet:
Venelin
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