Hi, it's a bit dark in here!

Sorry, Aircraft modeller here needing some advice on Tamiya paint colours for a Tiger 1. The shop that I will be visiting only has Tamiya paints so I need the Tamiya paint references for the: dark yellow(?) base colour and the red brown and green camo.

It would also be useful for me to know what paints that you would use?

Thanks for any help, I'm back off to the light

XF-60 is gonna be your base coat for anything but the earliest grey and non-Africa machines.

If you're going early all-gray scheme it's XF-63.

The red-brown and green-olive colors are very subjective and were often mixed and thinned in the field with either water or fuel or other solvents.

You still working on that Academy one from...seems like ages ago?

Gaz

Hi Gary,
I'm building a late Tiger 1 so it has the dark yellow base colour (I'm not talking about a primer?) So is XF60 that dark yellow?

[The red-brown and green-olive colors are very subjective and were often mixed and thinned in the field with either water or fuel or other solvents.[/quote]

Yep I know this so are there Tamiya single colour references? because of the above it doesn't matter but I'm after a single colour reference, if there is one?

Yep its the tiger I started for the KitMaker IPMS club challenge and I am not enjoying it but I do intend to finish it for November. I have a primer coat on it, actually red oxide primer, before adding the zimmerit! I'm just trying to sort out the turret mounted spare track links as the fittings are shown wrong because the links are shown the wrong way up! And I need to fit the links after the zim' what a pain!

Mal:

Tamiya have multiple Tiger kits. They even have multiple 1/35 "late" Tiger kits. So I don't know which kit you are talking about. Could you post its number?

But I looked at the most common kit, # 35146, and I want to say this; the track links are the right way up. See:

Tamiya 35146 page 6

David

Gaz; you seem to be recommending Dunkelgelb for African Tigers, which is wrong.

In fact I don't think it was even used in southern Russia / Ukraine on Tigers at first.

Am I reading you right?

David

Yep I know this so are there Tamiya single colour references? because of the above it doesn't matter but I'm after a single colour reference, if there is one?

Yep its the tiger I started for the KitMaker IPMS club challenge and I am not enjoying it but I do intend to finish it for November. I have a primer coat on it, actually red oxide primer, before adding the zimmerit! I'm just trying to sort out the turret mounted spare track links as the fittings are shown wrong because the links are shown the wrong way up! And I need to fit the links after the zim' what a pain![/quote]

Yes, the yellow is the base coat. The Germans used a red-brown primer. There is no call-out for the red-brown and olive-green. There's really no wrong answer for those two colors. You could easily mix some of your red oxide with some plain brown and come up with a close color.

Good luck!

Gaz

Hi Mal,
According to "Tarnanstriche des deutschen Heeres 1914 bis heute" by Johannes Dennecke, the RAL designations for used collors were:

Rotbraun RAL 8017-today known as Schokoladenbraun RAL 8017.This collor can be mixed from following Tamiya paints: XF-10(Flat Brown)/65%; XF-51(Khaki Drab)/30% and XF-1(Flat Black)/5%.

Olivgruen RAL 6003-name still in use today- can be mixed from XF-60(Dark Yellow)/30% and XF-61(Dark Green)/70%.

So to paint your late Tiger with Tamiya paints you'll need:
XF-60(Dark Yellow)- straight from the jar for basecollor and as ingredient for Olivegreen,
XF-10(Flat Brown)-as ingredient for Rotbraun,
XF-1(Flat Black)-as ingredient for Rotbraun, but you can also use it straight from the jar for preshading/priming-should you decide to do these,
XF-51(Khai Drab)-as ingredient for Rotbraun and
XF-61(Dark Green)-as ingredient for Olivegreen.

I've found these recipe's on the web last year and was happy with the results.
Hope this helps

No, I wasn't recommending Dark yellow for North Africa. Though I reread the sentence I guess you and I see it differently, David.

Gaz

You could use the dark green and red brown (XF's 61 and 64) or even NATO green (68) and NATO brown (67). They look fine and you don't need to mix colors to get there.