British armour modellers might be interested in Challenger 2 finished in an urban camouflage paint scheme - effectively the Berlin urban colour scheme.
The Royal Tank Regiment Facebook site has a few pictures; I haven't linked as I'm sure modellers will track it down easily enough. I also haven't attached the pictures either (rather obviously) but only as I'm not sure how.
Anyway, very smart they look too, and it's nice to have a further option to finish your Challenger 2 in.
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CHALLENGER 2 IN URBAN CAM
BootsDMS
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 04:19 PM UTC
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Here are a few more from Tweeter 
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retiredyank
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I wonder if they would go into combat sporting this camo.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 07:27 PM UTC
I read on a Facebook Group that the RTR is running a drill testing tactics for Tanks in Urban Combat, and the Berlin Scheme is being trialed for effectiveness. It was forward from Royal Tank Regiments own Facebook Page. Its Ajax Squadron, which is the Urban Specialized Squadron.
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Well, the Chieftains were painted up like that while I was in Berlin and they would have fought in that scheme, so I don't see why not.
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Well, the Chieftains were painted up like that while I was in Berlin and they would have fought in that scheme, so I don't see why not.
I was just wondering why they specified the camo as being for training. The first thing that I thought of was a Chieftain. But, I did not now how current the camo is.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 07:41 PM UTC
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I wonder if they would go into combat sporting this camo.
I think that was/is the general idea. Camouflage designed for terrain (open fields or woodlands or whatever) might not be the most effective in an urban environment which consists largely of man made objects, straight lines and right angles.
The perfect camouflage clothes for indoor fighting in rooms with wallpaper showing a flower pattern would look like flowers.
Straight lines will stand out when the rest of surroundings is bush/forest/whatever but they are perfectly at home in the city.
Google image search for Chieftain Berlin camouflage:
https://www.google.se/search?q=chieftain+berlin+camouflage&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwii68zuivDVAhXza5oKHb2dDAIQsAQIJg&biw=1132&bih=664
It also picks up images of some other vehicles and a Takom box-art.
Not too many images of Challengers though.
I want this as my next ride:
Dreaming is free, right?
/ Robin
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Dreaming is free, right?
This one should be more reasonable
Talking about urban camo, the French army had tested something similar between 1985 and 2005 :
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Berlin was unique, our tanks were 3 color NATO, great for the woods but the only woods were the Grunewald, and that was really just trees with very little ground cover. Our tanks stood out. But we would be out in the city up in the british sector and suddenly realize that there a tank sitting there cammoed against the buildings and you'd walked within a hundred feet of several more with out noticing them. That camo was great in the city, far better than NATOflage.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 08:17 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextDreaming is free, right?
This one should be more reasonable
Talking about urban camo, the French army had tested something similar between 1985 and 2005 :
H.P.
H.P.
Are there any pictures of an AMX-10RCR in service with that camo scheme? It looks amazing!
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Are there any pictures of an AMX-10RCR in service with that camo scheme? It looks amazing!
Here are the only pics I know...
H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 08:45 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextDreaming is free, right?
This one should be more reasonable
Talking about urban camo, the French army had tested something similar between 1985 and 2005 :
H.P.
H.P.
Are there any pictures of an AMX-10RCR in service with that camo scheme? It looks amazing!
An AMX-30 as bonus
The Cover Up when going camping:
/ Robin
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Quoted Text
Quoted TextAre there any pictures of an AMX-10RCR in service with that camo scheme? It looks amazing!
Here are the only pics I know...
H.P.
Isn't this camo used by one of the training formations of the French Army specializing in urban warfare?
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 10:02 PM UTC
Thanks for posting that Brian, I wonder if the back deck is green, like the Chieftains.
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I suspect not though it's difficult to tell from the available pictures; I imagine that these tanks were painted at what we used to know as Base Workshops but now are civilian organisations, the British Army having contracted out just about everything that used to make the Army work(!)
I just wonder if the old Chieftains' engine decks were left in green as they were apparently a notoriously dirty tank and therefore the urban paint finish would have been a waste of time on such an area of the vehicle.
I'm sure some former Royal Armoured Corps crewman can clarify in due course.
I just wonder if the old Chieftains' engine decks were left in green as they were apparently a notoriously dirty tank and therefore the urban paint finish would have been a waste of time on such an area of the vehicle.
I'm sure some former Royal Armoured Corps crewman can clarify in due course.
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Ok, Thanks, Those are pretty nice pics!
I'll have to remember that when my '10RCR kit gets here, I'm loving the look of that camo!
... And it doesnt help that I've got an AMX-30B2 getting here in a week or two, lol... I get the feeling I'm going to need more masking tape by the end of this!
I'll have to remember that when my '10RCR kit gets here, I'm loving the look of that camo!
... And it doesnt help that I've got an AMX-30B2 getting here in a week or two, lol... I get the feeling I'm going to need more masking tape by the end of this!
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I'm sure some former Royal Armoured Corps crewman can clarify in due course.
Berlin Brigade Chieftain engine decks were painted brown. The same brown as the colour used on the rest of the cam pattern.
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 01:51 AM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextAre there any pictures of an AMX-10RCR in service with that camo scheme? It looks amazing!
Here are the only pics I know...
H.P.
Isn't this camo used by one of the training formations of the French Army specializing in urban warfare?
Yes, it was used at "CENZUB", the "Centre d'entraînement aux actions en zone urbaine" -meaning Urban Warfare Training Center- in Sissone, Hauts-de-France region, if I recall right.
Removed by original poster on 08/24/17 - 20:59:08 (GMT).
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Ok, Thanks, Those are pretty nice pics!
I'll have to remember that when my '10RCR kit gets here, I'm loving the look of that camo!
... And it doesnt help that I've got an AMX-30B2 getting here in a week or two, lol... I get the feeling I'm going to need more masking tape by the end of this!
not only masking tape, you'll need something to steady your hand and your nerves as well
/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 02:37 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextOk, Thanks, Those are pretty nice pics!
I'll have to remember that when my '10RCR kit gets here, I'm loving the look of that camo!
... And it doesnt help that I've got an AMX-30B2 getting here in a week or two, lol... I get the feeling I'm going to need more masking tape by the end of this!
not only masking tape, you'll need something to steady your hand and your nerves as well
/ Robin
Maybe, lol.
Shouldnt be too bad as long as I take it slow, though. I've got a regrettable amount of free time due to life reasons, So... It 'should' be easy enough.
Though... I swear my queue of urban camo tanks is getting a bit bad (Some PLA stuff someday too, lol.). Still, it does look pretty amazing IMO!
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 05:30 AM UTC
I always find it interesting that Germany would match it and change the brown to a green.
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 05:31 AM UTC
and gray.
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Quoted TextI'm sure some former Royal Armoured Corps crewman can clarify in due course.
Berlin Brigade Chieftain engine decks were painted brown. The same brown as the colour used on the rest of the cam pattern.
Thanks for the heads up Max, I had seen a build that had it green, and was waiting til the build to confirm it.
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Posted: Friday, August 25, 2017 - 12:31 AM UTC
This picture shows the brown decks,
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