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Takom M31 Recovery Tank
Thirian24
Joined: September 30, 2015
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 08:08 AM UTC
Just seen on the FB page. Looks killer.
ALBOWIE
Joined: February 28, 2006
KitMaker: 1,605 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 08:17 AM UTC
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Just seen on the FB page. Looks killer.
Cant wait for this one
avenue
Joined: May 25, 2013
KitMaker: 544 posts
Armorama: 542 posts
Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 08:44 AM UTC
Thank's God! finally!
avenue
Joined: May 25, 2013
KitMaker: 544 posts
Armorama: 542 posts
Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 08:50 AM UTC
Hopefully a complete new M-32B1 to replace old italeri
SSGToms
Joined: April 02, 2005
KitMaker: 3,608 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 08:55 AM UTC
Sigh. More resin in my stash rendered obsolete. I'm going to be buying this one though!
Tanksami
Joined: August 06, 2011
KitMaker: 1,314 posts
Armorama: 1,217 posts
Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 08:58 AM UTC
Yes!! Yes!! Yes!! Just take my whole wallet & superfund now!!'
Now for a real decent Bergepanther as well please!!!
Now for a real decent Bergepanther as well please!!!
27-1025
Joined: September 16, 2004
KitMaker: 1,281 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 09:29 AM UTC
These guys are obviously listening. Keep em coming Takom. We've been waiting for decades for an M31!
ALBOWIE
Joined: February 28, 2006
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 09:42 AM UTC
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Hopefully a complete new M-32B1 to replace old italeri
Not much in common from the M3 Family M31 to the M4 Family M32. Asuka/Tasca offer the best m32 B1 on the market but there is very little actually wrong with Italeri's, it is just a very rare variant.
Al
RobinNilsson
TOS Moderator
Joined: November 29, 2006
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 09:54 AM UTC
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Sigh. More resin in my stash rendered obsolete. I'm going to be buying this one though!
Ditto.
This means one more left over Tamiya M3 in the stash. Maybe I could sell the Azimut conversion on EvilBay ....
Excellent news!
/ Robin
Hederstierna
#247
Joined: January 03, 2008
KitMaker: 1,102 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 11:04 AM UTC
SWEEEET!!!
Jacob
Jacob
jasegreene
Joined: October 21, 2013
KitMaker: 751 posts
Armorama: 751 posts
Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 12:59 PM UTC
Have to agree with everybody and say I am so happy to see this.Have had the old resin conversion for Tamiya for about 12 years.It is just keeps getting better and better for all of us.
wedgetail53
Joined: October 02, 2008
KitMaker: 658 posts
Armorama: 629 posts
Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 01:38 PM UTC
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Hopefully a complete new M-32B1 to replace old italeri
G'day Richard
Already produced by Asuka and it's a good kit too. Kit No. 35-026
Regards
Rob
Vodnik
Joined: March 26, 2003
KitMaker: 4,342 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 02:17 PM UTC
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Already produced by Asuka and it's a good kit too.
"Good" is an understatement
Buckeyes57
Joined: September 14, 2010
KitMaker: 135 posts
Armorama: 130 posts
Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 04:57 PM UTC
I have the DES and Legend conversions along with the Verlinden interior that I will no longer need. And a Tamiya kit with Eduard PE. Ugh!
jvazquez
Joined: September 26, 2006
KitMaker: 857 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 05:33 PM UTC
So awesome!!! Can't wait for this release!
Hederstierna
#247
Joined: January 03, 2008
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 06:20 PM UTC
Scott: You can probably still use that Verlinden interior set for this one, and if you won't, I might be interested 
Jacob
Jacob
vettejack
Joined: November 23, 2012
KitMaker: 1,277 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 08:10 PM UTC
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These guys are obviously listening. Keep em coming Takom. We've been waiting for decades for an M31!
I'm assuming, as well as you are, in the hope that Takom is 'listening' to modelers and peeking in at wish lists on modeling sites (Armorama in particular) to see what the 'flavor of the day' might be. For a few months I pleaded my case here for the AML 60/90 and for a new M47...writing about the decades of use...how many countries, on 5 different continents, used either one of the two vehicles...the number of possibilities of markings and paint schemes for the same...and the number of examples in museums for ensuring engineering accuracy applied to the molds, etc.
Bingo...both show up in 2017!
KurtLaughlin
Joined: January 18, 2003
KitMaker: 2,402 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 09:37 PM UTC
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Quoted TextThese guys are obviously listening. Keep em coming Takom. We've been waiting for decades for an M31!
I'm assuming, as well as you are, in the hope that Takom is 'listening' to modelers and peeking in at wish lists on modeling sites (Armorama in particular) to see what the 'flavor of the day' might be. For a few months I pleaded my case here for the AML 60/90 and for a new M47...writing about the decades of use...how many countries, on 5 different continents, used either one of the two vehicles...the number of possibilities of markings and paint schemes for the same...and the number of examples in museums for ensuring engineering accuracy applied to the molds, etc.
Bingo...both show up in 2017!
Yeah . . . The reality is that a literal couple of guys in the company decide what they want and ask some of their contacts if they can get the info to support a kit. If so, the kit happens. Those contacts also suggest subjects from time-to-time, but if those couple of guys - or even just one guy in some cases - don't want that subject, it doesn't matter how many emails or Facebook postings there are, it's not getting made.
Is every company like this? No, but this is certainly the norm in the industry now that it is predominately small boutique shops rather than Revell or Tamiya.
KL
RobinNilsson
TOS ModeratorJoined: November 29, 2006
KitMaker: 6,693 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:14 PM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextThese guys are obviously listening. Keep em coming Takom. We've been waiting for decades for an M31!
I'm assuming, as well as you are, in the hope that Takom is 'listening' to modelers and peeking in at wish lists on modeling sites (Armorama in particular) to see what the 'flavor of the day' might be. For a few months I pleaded my case here for the AML 60/90 and for a new M47...writing about the decades of use...how many countries, on 5 different continents, used either one of the two vehicles...the number of possibilities of markings and paint schemes for the same...and the number of examples in museums for ensuring engineering accuracy applied to the molds, etc.
Bingo...both show up in 2017!
Yeah . . . The reality is that a literal couple of guys in the company decide what they want and ask some of their contacts if they can get the info to support a kit. If so, the kit happens. Those contacts also suggest subjects from time-to-time, but if those couple of guys - or even just one guy in some cases - don't want that subject, it doesn't matter how many emails or Facebook postings there are, it's not getting made.
Is every company like this? No, but this is certainly the norm in the industry now that it is predominately small boutique shops rather than Revell or Tamiya.
KL
one additional factor is their guesses about potential market and what the competitors might possibly be planning.
/ Robin
skyshark
Joined: November 16, 2005
KitMaker: 703 posts
Armorama: 499 posts
Posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:15 PM UTC
Ok here is my request. M800 series trucks in plastic.
KurtLaughlin
Joined: January 18, 2003
KitMaker: 2,402 posts
Armorama: 2,377 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 04:47 AM UTC
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Ok here is my request. M800 series trucks in plastic.
Until somebody running a model company wants it too, you are unlikely to see it.
KL
KurtLaughlin
Joined: January 18, 2003
KitMaker: 2,402 posts
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Posted: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 04:56 AM UTC
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Yeah . . . The reality is that a literal couple of guys in the company decide what they want and ask some of their contacts if they can get the info to support a kit. If so, the kit happens. Those contacts also suggest subjects from time-to-time, but if those couple of guys - or even just one guy in some cases - don't want that subject, it doesn't matter how many emails or Facebook postings there are, it's not getting made.
Is every company like this? No, but this is certainly the norm in the industry now that it is predominately small boutique shops rather than Revell or Tamiya.
KL
one additional factor is their guesses about potential market and what the competitors might possibly be planning.
/ Robin
It's a smaller factor, or just applied more randomly, than one would think. I know of one subject that was suggested that would be highly desired but was rejected because one of the company principals simply did not like the vehicle. I know of a couple that were suggested to me that I said I would like, but probably wouldn't sell to the greater public, and they were killed more or less on my statement.
What it boils down to is what it has always boiled down to: Kit subjects are chosen based solely upon the whims and desires of the model company owners. Some desire making a profit above all else, some just want a kit of a vehicle that looks neat and hopefully will make them a buck or two.
KL
Precious_rob
Joined: March 09, 2009
KitMaker: 206 posts
Armorama: 183 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 05:59 AM UTC
Im not arguing the validity of your statement or its accuracy, but that sounds to me like an absolutely ridiculous way to run a "for profit' company.
Im a professional chef by trade and I know from first hand experience that I don't get to simply cook "what I like" but have to make what my customers want and are going to eat, otherwise the business goes where they get the food they want. So to me not releasing a kit that would likely sell just on the merits of not liking the subject matter seems like shooting your own company in the foot.
But then, I guess I dont know the ins and outs of model companies
Im a professional chef by trade and I know from first hand experience that I don't get to simply cook "what I like" but have to make what my customers want and are going to eat, otherwise the business goes where they get the food they want. So to me not releasing a kit that would likely sell just on the merits of not liking the subject matter seems like shooting your own company in the foot.
But then, I guess I dont know the ins and outs of model companies
Bravo1102
Joined: December 08, 2003
KitMaker: 2,864 posts
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Posted: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 06:11 AM UTC
Conversely there are plenty of anecdotes of chefs opening up a restaurant making "what they want" and building a customer base.
Food like model kits covers a very broad range of interests, likes and desires. So a rationale exists for making a kit if what a couple of guys in the company like. There is the story that spec kits would be created for Tamiya-san every year and he'd pick the ones he liked. That's why it took decades for the T-55 and T-72 to get made. He just did not like them.
But outside of cars and planes it could be argued as said above that the market is so specialized "boutique" that kits could be made on a whim in the hope that they will find a market just as that chef does when he opens up a bakery that just sells cupcakes. It finds and creates the market and demand rather than being done to meet a preexisting demand.
That was dull.
Food like model kits covers a very broad range of interests, likes and desires. So a rationale exists for making a kit if what a couple of guys in the company like. There is the story that spec kits would be created for Tamiya-san every year and he'd pick the ones he liked. That's why it took decades for the T-55 and T-72 to get made. He just did not like them.
But outside of cars and planes it could be argued as said above that the market is so specialized "boutique" that kits could be made on a whim in the hope that they will find a market just as that chef does when he opens up a bakery that just sells cupcakes. It finds and creates the market and demand rather than being done to meet a preexisting demand.
That was dull.
Precious_rob
Joined: March 09, 2009
KitMaker: 206 posts
Armorama: 183 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 06:32 AM UTC
Yeah I get your meaning with that argument, I guess I just see it more from the for profit business angle. Believe me, alot of those guys doing just what they want tank fairly quickly, isn't always the case but like I said, I don't know the business side of model kit production, just basic marketing.
Just sucks that now I have to wonder if the execs at certain companies don't like IDF Namers and that's why I haven't seen one in kit form yet
Just sucks that now I have to wonder if the execs at certain companies don't like IDF Namers and that's why I haven't seen one in kit form yet
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