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Posted: Friday, March 12, 2004 - 05:32 AM UTC
Let me see...I think the color of the tires..too black, I think is the photo, but they are glossy too.
Thanks for the "game"
Thanks for the "game"
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Posted: Friday, March 12, 2004 - 05:16 PM UTC
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Let me see...I think the color of the tires..too black, I think is the photo, but they are glossy too. Thanks for the "game"
Sorry Bus, as before it is a model of a replica Triplane... As amoden replica the tires would have more carbon black in them. So semi gloss black is ok.... Here's a three part hint
1. No real Fokker Dr.I ever had lozenge applied to cover it...
2. What movie were the three original replicas built for.
3. This is not a diorama because...?
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Posted: Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 01:00 AM UTC
Okay, guessing the movie was "The Blue Max" and it's not a diorama because there are no figures and it is sitting on a hunk of carpet...
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Posted: Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 04:24 AM UTC
Keenan right on the nosy!!! Now lets see if you can guess the next one. To the first person who guesses the next quiz correctly, I will mail to you a DML/Dragon 1/12 scale bust of Ernst Udet! Unfinished so you'll have to glue it together and paint it.
Ready? Here we go... This diorama is based on a painting called Gotcha! In the painting an allied ace is flying over his downed victim. I took the allied ace in question and did one of his actual victories in the same layout as the painting. Your mission is to name all five;
1. the allied pilot
2. the German victim & rank
3. the date of the victory
4. the German victim's unit
5. the number of the victory this was to the allied pilot.
If you know the painting you'll get at least one right. The rest is up to you. Go get em!
Ready? Here we go... This diorama is based on a painting called Gotcha! In the painting an allied ace is flying over his downed victim. I took the allied ace in question and did one of his actual victories in the same layout as the painting. Your mission is to name all five;
1. the allied pilot
2. the German victim & rank
3. the date of the victory
4. the German victim's unit
5. the number of the victory this was to the allied pilot.
If you know the painting you'll get at least one right. The rest is up to you. Go get em!
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Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 07:20 PM UTC
Okay - just a wild guess, but the plane is ACTUALLY a small Finnish Tank missing the 105 Howitzer?
And since it is a "French" plane, I would assume to see SOMEONE surrendering SOMEWHERE in the scene! (sorry - just couldn't resist the jab!).
And since it is a "French" plane, I would assume to see SOMEONE surrendering SOMEWHERE in the scene! (sorry - just couldn't resist the jab!).
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Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 11:25 PM UTC
Found the "O" Clueless on the rest of it...
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Posted: Monday, March 15, 2004 - 03:53 AM UTC
Well thats a start. Right painting. Hope were not gunning for copyright violation...
The Spad is in the colors of....
The Spad is in the colors of....
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 12:25 AM UTC
Well Shaun gave you the pic - a painting by Stan Stokes - of Rickenbacker in his Spad.
A quick zoom around on google last night - before my pc spat the dummy so I couldn't post this - shows that 94 "Hat in the Ring" squadron received Spads from 5 July 1918 and was all Spads by 8 August 1918. Rickenbacker flew Spads from 5 July so this victory must be after that date.
All his victories over single seaters while he was in A Spad were over Fokkers.
Assuming your research of the Fokker's colours for your diorama are correct - (its just that the blue isn't obvious in the painting) and I have no doubt that it is correct, then the Fokker is from Richtofen's Circus (red nose) and the blue fuselage with white tail indicates it is from the 10th Pursuit Flight of the circus.
As the pilot was obviously not killed a search of german air casualties won't assist in identifying the German pilot.
Also I read Rickenbacker's journal online and could not fine reference to him downing a Fokker that landed in a creek/puddle/swamp. Many he described as going down in flames or exploding on impact with the ground. There was one that he was trying to capture that another Spad interrupted and shot down - thjis one crashed near a wood and he in fact drove near that site the next day when he went for a drive to visit his brother in the trenches.
The possible dates for the victory are 8 or 10 August 1918; 14,15,25,26,28 September 1918; or 1,2,3,9,10,22,23,27 or 30 October 1918. It is definitely not his last victory - which was over a balloon.
My guess is it relates to his victory on 25 September 1918 - for which he was awarded the Medal of Honour and the DSC w/7 OLC, where he shot down one of a number of escorting Fokkers and shot down a Halbetstadt 2 seat recce plane. It is also the first time that he scored a "double" in a day. If this is the case then it is "official" victory number 9 of his 26 "official" victories.
This is a great thread - but its not helping me get a few models finished for our annual Club comp in May.
Brian
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 04:32 AM UTC
'...Well Shaun gave you the pic - a painting by Stan Stokes - of Rickenbacker in his Spad.
A quick zoom around on google last night - before my pc spat the dummy so I couldn't post this - shows that 94 "Hat in the Ring" squadron received Spads from 5 July 1918 and was all Spads by 8 August 1918. Rickenbacker flew Spads from 5 July so this victory must be after that date. All his victories over single seaters while he was in A Spad were over Fokkers...'
The pilot depicted as Captain Eddie V. Rickenbacker is correct
'...Assuming your research of the Fokker's colours for your diorama are correct - (its just that the blue isn't obvious in the painting) and I have no doubt that it is correct, then the Fokker is from Richtofen's Circus (red nose) and the blue fuselage with white tail indicates it is from the 10th Pursuit Flight of the circus...'
Rickenbacker's unit believed they were flying against JG I through out the war but that was incorrect. Jagdgeschwader I, Jasta 10 airfiields at this time were;
27Sep18 8Oct18 Metz-Frescaty " Armee area C
8Oct18 6Nov18 Marville " Armee area 5
Note also that the red nose was associated with another unit from Jagdgeschwader II. The a/c from this fighter wing were known as 'the blue tails.' Over the front Vol #9 has the story of JGII. The blue tended to vary as the supplies were acquired from various locations. Even though the unit painters tended to mix lots to get close.
'...As the pilot was obviously not killed a search of german air casualties won't assist in identifying the German pilot...'
Actually the casualty list in the above mentioned reference does tell us who the unfortunate Vizefeldwebel (acting Sergeant) was.
'...Also I read Rickenbacker's journal online and could not fine reference to him downing a Fokker that landed in a creek/puddle/swamp. Many he described as going down in flames or exploding on impact with the ground. There was one that he was trying to capture that another Spad interrupted and shot down - thjis one crashed near a wood and he in fact drove near that site the next day when he went for a drive to visit his brother in the trenches...'
Actually the painting is a bit of a stretch from the German pilot's account. Rickenbacker's bio Fighting the Flying Circus was ghost written by the way.
'...The possible dates for the victory are 8 or 10 August 1918; 14,15,25,26,28 September 1918; or 1,2,3,9,10,22,23,27 or 30 October 1918. It is definitely not his last victory - which was over a balloon...'
I'll give this much away Oct 1918 is correct
'...My guess is it relates to his victory on 25 September 1918 - for which he was awarded the Medal of Honour and the DSC w/7 OLC, where he shot down one of a number of escorting Fokkers and shot down a Halbetstadt 2 seat recce plane. It is also the first time that he scored a "double" in a day. If this is the case then it is "official" victory number 9 of his 26 "official" victories...'
Sorry No
'...This is a great thread - but its not helping me get a few models finished for our annual Club comp in May. Brian...'
Here's a bit of help. Americal / Gryphon has the decal for this machine in their 1/48 scale sheet # 140 for JG II, Man I just gave the location of the treasure...
A quick zoom around on google last night - before my pc spat the dummy so I couldn't post this - shows that 94 "Hat in the Ring" squadron received Spads from 5 July 1918 and was all Spads by 8 August 1918. Rickenbacker flew Spads from 5 July so this victory must be after that date. All his victories over single seaters while he was in A Spad were over Fokkers...'
The pilot depicted as Captain Eddie V. Rickenbacker is correct
'...Assuming your research of the Fokker's colours for your diorama are correct - (its just that the blue isn't obvious in the painting) and I have no doubt that it is correct, then the Fokker is from Richtofen's Circus (red nose) and the blue fuselage with white tail indicates it is from the 10th Pursuit Flight of the circus...'
Rickenbacker's unit believed they were flying against JG I through out the war but that was incorrect. Jagdgeschwader I, Jasta 10 airfiields at this time were;
27Sep18 8Oct18 Metz-Frescaty " Armee area C
8Oct18 6Nov18 Marville " Armee area 5
Note also that the red nose was associated with another unit from Jagdgeschwader II. The a/c from this fighter wing were known as 'the blue tails.' Over the front Vol #9 has the story of JGII. The blue tended to vary as the supplies were acquired from various locations. Even though the unit painters tended to mix lots to get close.
'...As the pilot was obviously not killed a search of german air casualties won't assist in identifying the German pilot...'
Actually the casualty list in the above mentioned reference does tell us who the unfortunate Vizefeldwebel (acting Sergeant) was.
'...Also I read Rickenbacker's journal online and could not fine reference to him downing a Fokker that landed in a creek/puddle/swamp. Many he described as going down in flames or exploding on impact with the ground. There was one that he was trying to capture that another Spad interrupted and shot down - thjis one crashed near a wood and he in fact drove near that site the next day when he went for a drive to visit his brother in the trenches...'
Actually the painting is a bit of a stretch from the German pilot's account. Rickenbacker's bio Fighting the Flying Circus was ghost written by the way.
'...The possible dates for the victory are 8 or 10 August 1918; 14,15,25,26,28 September 1918; or 1,2,3,9,10,22,23,27 or 30 October 1918. It is definitely not his last victory - which was over a balloon...'
I'll give this much away Oct 1918 is correct
'...My guess is it relates to his victory on 25 September 1918 - for which he was awarded the Medal of Honour and the DSC w/7 OLC, where he shot down one of a number of escorting Fokkers and shot down a Halbetstadt 2 seat recce plane. It is also the first time that he scored a "double" in a day. If this is the case then it is "official" victory number 9 of his 26 "official" victories...'
Sorry No
'...This is a great thread - but its not helping me get a few models finished for our annual Club comp in May. Brian...'
Here's a bit of help. Americal / Gryphon has the decal for this machine in their 1/48 scale sheet # 140 for JG II, Man I just gave the location of the treasure...
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Posted: Friday, March 19, 2004 - 02:12 PM UTC
Too tough?
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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 12:13 AM UTC
Jackflash
Yes - I surrender. Sadly I haven't had time to get back to this thread.
Brian
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 06:03 AM UTC
Here's a bit of help.
1. the allied pilot + Capt. Rickenbacker
2. the German victim & rank Vizefeldwebel (acting Sergeant) ....
3. the date of the victory Oct. 23.1918
4. the German victim's unit Jasta 15
5. the number of the victory this was to the allied pilot.
1. the allied pilot + Capt. Rickenbacker
2. the German victim & rank Vizefeldwebel (acting Sergeant) ....
3. the date of the victory Oct. 23.1918
4. the German victim's unit Jasta 15
5. the number of the victory this was to the allied pilot.
JackFlash
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Posted: Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 09:09 PM UTC
Here's a bit of fun... Guess the name of this diorama.
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Posted: Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 10:08 PM UTC
Lots of names run through my mind when I see this.
Titles like
"Ooops"
"Any landing you walk away from ......"
"Thal'll be hard to fix!"
"You're Flying a Desk for a While"
Titles like
"Ooops"
"Any landing you walk away from ......"
"Thal'll be hard to fix!"
"You're Flying a Desk for a While"
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Posted: Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 10:23 PM UTC
Several things come to mind for this one:
"Oops"
"What a great view without the wing in the road"
"Hang on Sir, you"ll be able to step down in a minute"
"Bloody flying machine are harder to master than horses"
"The ground jumped up at me"
Brian
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Posted: Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 10:40 PM UTC
Greetings all;
Interesting comments, but I didn't make this an easy draw. To get this right you would have to be familiar with the 1966 movie 'The Blue Max '
I call it, 'The Pride of the German Officer Corps.'
Interesting comments, but I didn't make this an easy draw. To get this right you would have to be familiar with the 1966 movie 'The Blue Max '
I call it, 'The Pride of the German Officer Corps.'
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Posted: Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 11:08 PM UTC
Here is a bit of fun. The scene is an ice lake in Russia during the winter of 1918-1919. A Bolshevik cossack babe is responding to a question about her flight experience from the Sopvich Triplane pilot. What is the title of this diorama.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 07:25 AM UTC
'...Da Komrade I alvays land like a lady...'
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Posted: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 08:20 AM UTC
What type of aircraft is the large bird and what was the occassion?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 06:59 PM UTC
I'd guess it's a Gotha, occasion...First restoration of a flying Gotha? May day? (j/k) Armistice day?
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Posted: Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 02:59 PM UTC
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I'd guess it's a Gotha, occasion...First restoration of a flying Gotha? May day? (j/k) Armistice day?
Nope, nope and nah.
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Posted: Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 03:06 PM UTC
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geez who brought this old thread back too life? LOL
I admit it was me. I thought it might bring a break from the otherwise endless stream of broken helicopter bone yards that seem to florish in the aircraft diorama section here. But then again their such easy targets and the kits are pretty cheap.
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Posted: Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 01:32 PM UTC
OK Jackflash I'll buy in again.
I'm not up to date on German WWI aircraft so I am assuming this is a Gotha.
If this is set in Britain then
"Some of the trophies we collected from the Continent"
If in Germany then
"With these we will bomb the Tommies back to England"
Brian