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Italeri: Panzerwerfer 42Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 07:12 AM UTC
Italeri re-issues its kit on the WWII German multiple rocket platform based on the Opel Maultier chassis.
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tanknick22
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 08:06 AM UTC
how may times is Italier going to release this kit
Biggles2
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 11:12 AM UTC
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how may times is Italier going to release this kit
Until the molds wear out!
Bravo1102
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 03:48 PM UTC
Very nice update. Great markings options and link to link track. Definite alternative for the less detail obsessed builders out there.
rhwinter
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 04:07 PM UTC
Well, I like it!
Jmarles
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 04:33 AM UTC
I wonder if the indy tracks are ICM in origin?
T0MM0-01
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 05:23 AM UTC
me too !! - Good little kit 😆
T0MM0-01
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 05:41 AM UTC
Jmarles. -- in answer to ya question about the 'indy' links being from ICM - well they look almost exactly the same as the 'indy' links in Dragon's RSO/01 kit too !! - does anyone know , if in real life , the RSO/01 and the Panzerwerfer - 42 and/or the Opel Maultiers shared the same type of tracks ?
Biggles2
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 05:55 AM UTC
I thought Opal Maultiers and Panzerwerfer 42's used Pz ll tracks?
retiredyank
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 06:22 AM UTC
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I thought Opal Maultiers and Panzerwerfer 42's used Pz ll tracks?
Although my library is not built around either of these vehicles, I too believe that they used the Pz II track. I wish I had time to build one of these.
m4sherman
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 07:01 AM UTC
The tracks and suspension came from a Carden/Lloyd British light tank design that was widely copied. Same suspension and tracks used on the Bren carriers.
Jmarles
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 08:10 AM UTC
Yeah, they were inspired by the british design. They employed panzer I tracks. The heavier Mercedes maultiers used modified panzer II tracks and suspension. I was curious if Italeri chose to go with ICM, Masterbox or Dragon or something as they haven't made panzer I links yet as far as I know. Hmm!!
The RSO tracks btw are a unique design, quite wider and bigger than small panzer tracks, to deal with Russian mud and snow.
Hmmm. Italeri and Zvezda share a business relationship. Maybe they are Zvezda tracks!
The RSO tracks btw are a unique design, quite wider and bigger than small panzer tracks, to deal with Russian mud and snow.
Hmmm. Italeri and Zvezda share a business relationship. Maybe they are Zvezda tracks!
Jmarles
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 08:26 AM UTC
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Quoted TextI thought Opal Maultiers and Panzerwerfer 42's used Pz ll tracks?
Although my library is not built around either of these vehicles, I too believe that they used the Pz II track. I wish I had time to build one of these.
The Opel and Ford maultiers used panzer I tracks. The heavier maultiers like the Mercedes 4500 used a modified panzer II track and wheel drsign.
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 10:01 AM UTC
well this is the third or maybe even the fourth reincarnation of the Italeri kit. Even in first issue, it wasn't terrible. Still I've longed for somebody like GWH, Meng or Takom to tackle this little beast that often played a critical role in WWII.
Suspension looks the same to me as the older kits (I still have two or three), and I don't think Tamiya did an upgrade here as well. At least one after market company made tracks for the kit. I've thought about combining the Dragon kit with the Italeri kit (suspension & tracks), but have never bit the bullet. Not yet anyway! My real concern is with the cradle and rocket tubes as supplied by Italeri. We all know they need a major improvement. Plus I've never been overly fond of the front wheels and tires, but the Dragon stuff falls into place here as well. You'd also thought by now that Italeri would have done a major interior upgrade to the kit the seem to own a monopoly on!
gary
Suspension looks the same to me as the older kits (I still have two or three), and I don't think Tamiya did an upgrade here as well. At least one after market company made tracks for the kit. I've thought about combining the Dragon kit with the Italeri kit (suspension & tracks), but have never bit the bullet. Not yet anyway! My real concern is with the cradle and rocket tubes as supplied by Italeri. We all know they need a major improvement. Plus I've never been overly fond of the front wheels and tires, but the Dragon stuff falls into place here as well. You'd also thought by now that Italeri would have done a major interior upgrade to the kit the seem to own a monopoly on!
gary
Jmarles
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 10:12 AM UTC
The kit can definitely use some AM help. The tires should probably be the more usual eight hole - rather than six - I've yet to see a photo with werfers with six-holed wheels. A few wheel wheel options out there, and I believe the PE upgrade for the launcher is still available.
BillieJean
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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 03:18 AM UTC
Model Kasten Made/Makes the PZI Indy Links for this.
tanknick22
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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 11:24 PM UTC
How many times is italeri going to release this thing give it a rest retire it
firstcircle
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Posted: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 01:52 AM UTC
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The kit can definitely use some AM help. The tires should probably be the more usual eight hole - rather than six - I've yet to see a photo with werfers with six-holed wheels. A few wheel wheel options out there, and I believe the PE upgrade for the launcher is still available.
Which tyres / wheels do you mean? The road wheels have four holes, the front wheels have eight, the idler has six, all of which seem OK, I think.
The separate track links are a good idea as this vehicle always exhibits a lot of track sag, including under the idler, giving it a distinctive look.
The next enhancement could be a sprue for the 24x8cm rail vielfachwerfer, that would be awesome.
T0MM0-01
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Posted: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 04:10 AM UTC
like this ???? (how do u put up an image here ??). i wanna show an image of a resin and etch upgrade-kit
Jmarles
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Posted: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 08:48 AM UTC
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Quoted TextThe kit can definitely use some AM help. The tires should probably be the more usual eight hole - rather than six - I've yet to see a photo with werfers with six-holed wheels. A few wheel wheel options out there, and I believe the PE upgrade for the launcher is still available.
Which tyres / wheels do you mean? The road wheels have four holes, the front wheels have eight, the idler has six, all of which seem OK, I think.
The separate track links are a good idea as this vehicle always exhibits a lot of track sag, including under the idler, giving it a distinctive look.
The next enhancement could be a sprue for the 24x8cm rail vielfachwerfer, that would be awesome.
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I was referring to the truck's front tires. Annoyingly, Italeri insist on eight-hole tires on their box art - in reality every boxing I've seen has just the early six-hole pattern.I have 13 Italeri kits in various forms and even the late wooden box version has the early style.
Taeuss
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Posted: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 09:12 AM UTC
Wow, its baacck! "Low in cost" would probably sum it up pretty well. An update would have been appreciated, or better yet, someone else issue a modern version of the kit.
firstcircle
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Posted: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 07:37 PM UTC
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I was referring to the truck's front tires. Annoyingly, Italeri insist on eight-hole tires on their box art - in reality every boxing I've seen has just the early six-hole pattern.I have 13 Italeri kits in various forms and even the late wooden box version has the early style.
It looks like that is only the case with the original Maultier kit. I couldn't find a photo of the sprue, but this photo shows the six hole wheel in the built model on the Testors boxing:
While the sprue shot from the Italeri site shows that the wheel in this Panzerwerfer 42 kit has eight holes, and I think it always has had.
Although it is said to be based on the old Italeri Maultier kit, none of the sprues are directly shared.