_GOTOBOTTOM
Armor/AFV
For discussions on tanks, artillery, jeeps, etc.
Hosted by Darren Baker, Mario Matijasic
News
ICM: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf A
tatbaqui
Staff MemberNews Writer
ARMORAMA
#040
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Joined: May 06, 2007
KitMaker: 2,713 posts
Armorama: 2,451 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 07:02 PM UTC


ICM Holding this month has finally released its kit on the first Sd.Kfz. 251 variant.

Read the Full News Story

If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
d6mst0
#453
Visit this Community
Texas, United States
Joined: August 28, 2016
KitMaker: 1,925 posts
Armorama: 601 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 07:04 PM UTC
Looks like a nice kit.
Biggles2
Visit this Community
Quebec, Canada
Joined: January 01, 2004
KitMaker: 7,600 posts
Armorama: 6,110 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 08:32 PM UTC
Looks like quite a different construction approach to the fenders/hull assemblies. Not too crazy about the vinyl-looking tracks - maybe they can be replaced with Dragon Magic Tracks, as well as with the tools and weapons . Have to wait for the build reviews and critics.


GaryKato
Visit this Community
California, United States
Joined: December 06, 2004
KitMaker: 3,694 posts
Armorama: 2,693 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 10:52 PM UTC
The clear sprue looks like it's from a car kit. I guess you only need the headlights.
AOS
Visit this Community
Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Joined: September 29, 2005
KitMaker: 75 posts
Armorama: 74 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 11:52 PM UTC
I will take one, wanted always a 251/A. As Biggles2 said - I replace the tracks with Dragon's tracks of my spare box (beside some other bits).
165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 11:54 PM UTC
Oh Rapture! Another basic German kit that we already had tons of. But hey - at least it is totally new tooling.

Yes, the clear glass sprue looks oddly interesting.
bslTanksAreBest
#484
Visit this Community
Washington, United States
Joined: November 12, 2017
KitMaker: 13 posts
Armorama: 13 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 12:54 AM UTC
A's galore? not so fast sunny...
brekinapez
Visit this Community
Georgia, United States
Joined: July 26, 2013
KitMaker: 2,272 posts
Armorama: 1,860 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 01:06 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Oh Rapture! Another basic German kit that we already had tons of. But hey - at least it is totally new tooling.

Yes, the clear glass sprue looks oddly interesting.


We have tons of 1/35 Ausf A's? Can you provide a link to those?
Jmarles
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: November 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,138 posts
Armorama: 953 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 01:39 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Oh Rapture! Another basic German kit that we already had tons of. But hey - at least it is totally new tooling.

Yes, the clear glass sprue looks oddly interesting.


By tons you mean zero? Nor do we even have a decent B because the interior Zvezda made is totally incorrect. Kind of like me saying we already have tons of Shermans if Tamiya brought a Ram out.
Pak_40
Visit this Community
Minnesota, United States
Joined: August 12, 2003
KitMaker: 392 posts
Armorama: 281 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 03:11 AM UTC
I am definite going to get this one no matter what anyone says.
Taeuss
Visit this Community
Manitoba, Canada
Joined: January 03, 2016
KitMaker: 3,791 posts
Armorama: 3,778 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 03:13 AM UTC
Here's something that I've been waiting for years, ever since Dragon announced but apparently did not release this version of the 251. That and the UHU. Odd. Anyways, if ICM is the only game in town I want to know more about it.
Taeuss
Visit this Community
Manitoba, Canada
Joined: January 03, 2016
KitMaker: 3,791 posts
Armorama: 3,778 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 03:15 AM UTC
The clear sprue looks suspiciously like the one that comes with their Studebaker truck kit.
tatbaqui
Staff MemberNews Writer
ARMORAMA
#040
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Joined: May 06, 2007
KitMaker: 2,713 posts
Armorama: 2,451 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 04:30 AM UTC
I checked on the file that ICM has provided, and it has that clear sprue. Nevertheless, I just sent them a note to inquire on this matter. I will update all on the feedback. Cheers
tatbaqui
Staff MemberNews Writer
ARMORAMA
#040
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Joined: May 06, 2007
KitMaker: 2,713 posts
Armorama: 2,451 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 04:34 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Oh Rapture! Another basic German kit that we already had tons of. But hey - at least it is totally new tooling.

Yes, the clear glass sprue looks oddly interesting.


It may look like any other plain vanilla half-track Mike. A plastic model of this variant however is a rarity (if not zero, not sure), reason for some folks to be excited about this release. Well, you can count me as one too.
165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 04:48 AM UTC
In my comment was referring to the large number of German halftrack models in general.

I will stay out of this discussion in the future. I bow to other's greater knowledge on the subject.
Jmarles
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: November 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,138 posts
Armorama: 953 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 04:54 AM UTC

Quoted Text

In my comment was referring to the large number of German halftrack models in general.

I will stay out of this discussion in the future. I bow to others greater knowledge on the subject.


I empathize with your frustration. There are hundreds of halftrack kits out there for axis. This version is somewhat unique as it's the first 251 to see service. No one has yet kitted one in 1/35, so it's a real "must have" for some. That being said, it would be nice to see the Ram which for Canadians especially is considered a very important tank. And a Kangaroo with current market quality would be good. It seems that we either get German stuff - which I personally like - or we get weird boutique releases like Dragon's recent Japanese torpedo boat. There are a lot of allied releases we'd like to see, and I am sure at some point someone will do them. Kind of like the Bergepanther! it took so long lol.
Jmarles
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: November 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,138 posts
Armorama: 953 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 04:59 AM UTC
Here's a question - is the antennae not usually located mid hull on top? or is this a pseudo-command version sans crazy antennae frame?
MrCompletely
Visit this Community
Saitama-ken, Japan / 日本
Joined: February 12, 2016
KitMaker: 128 posts
Armorama: 120 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 05:33 AM UTC
As long as it's better than the old Nitto 251/B I'll consider it.
Jmarles
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: November 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,138 posts
Armorama: 953 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 05:42 AM UTC

Quoted Text

As long as it's better than the old Nitto 251/B I'll consider it.


:D

I built a Nitto one and have the rocket version in my stash. My god, they are an abomination!! I will build it as a heavily modified sci-fi thingie for my Bandai peeps...
brekinapez
Visit this Community
Georgia, United States
Joined: July 26, 2013
KitMaker: 2,272 posts
Armorama: 1,860 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 06:28 AM UTC
Most of the pics I have seen don't show the mount, although there is a walk-around that has the mount on a bracket welded to the hull just above the front of the left fender.
goldnova72
Visit this Community
Alberta, Canada
Joined: February 21, 2009
KitMaker: 627 posts
Armorama: 592 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 06:55 AM UTC
There's a picture of the fender antenna mount in the 251 Half Track book by David Doyle . Caption states early on antenna mounted on fender , later moved to upper side of body . Sorry can't post a picture , I suck at computers , now if you want some one to fix your 8 track ....
Jmarles
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: November 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,138 posts
Armorama: 953 posts
Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 08:07 AM UTC

Quoted Text

There's a picture of the fender antenna mount in the 251 Half Track book by David Doyle . Caption states early on antenna mounted on fender , later moved to upper side of body . Sorry can't post a picture , I suck at computers , now if you want some one to fix your 8 track ....


Damn wish I still had my '77:T Bird!
Thanks for the antennae note. I searched google a bit didn't find any *drumroll* aerial shots!
Pak_40
Visit this Community
Minnesota, United States
Joined: August 12, 2003
KitMaker: 392 posts
Armorama: 281 posts
Posted: Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 03:06 AM UTC
I think I will get one, make a 'what if' dio with it.
Jmarles
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: November 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,138 posts
Armorama: 953 posts
Posted: Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 06:03 AM UTC
There are some good pics of General von Saucken's 251/6 in Concord #7025, it's an ausf. A and is interesting because it should have been retired at that time. It could be a fairly easy conversion.
Jmarles
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: November 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,138 posts
Armorama: 953 posts
Posted: Monday, January 22, 2018 - 07:19 AM UTC
Aaaand..BOOM! A 251/6 a in the catalogue!!!
 _GOTOTOP