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Dioramas
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altenative ways to create water
crismag
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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 05:12 PM UTC
i just ventured into making dioramas and i was pretty much pleased with my first work
although im doing dioramas of rally cars, i found this site veey helpful and informative in various techniques in making a great dioramas. my next projest is to make a scene where a rally car is crossing a shallow stream. i need your help guys to what i would use to create this effect. i need alternative mediums to creat water coz there are limited rescources of hobby shops here in the philippines. thanks a lot!
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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 07:49 PM UTC
Hi,
Welcome to ArmoramA.

There are a lot of threads here at ArmoramA with lots of ideas and materials to simulate water and some of them have links to sites with the description of the techniques used.

Some of them:


HTH


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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 09:54 PM UTC
streams that a rally car would pass through, are very shallow. Water can be easily modelled by using lots of layers of clear varnish (or even with a tint or blue or brown does no harm) with suitable ground work made underneath. For ripples use some glue gel and basically squeeze this out in the shape of the ripples where you want them. drybrush these lightly with white. See here for my attempt at water, by using this method

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/frank_glackin/vwp?.dir=/Bridge+Defense&.src=ph&.dnm=water2.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/frank_glackin/lst%3f%26.dir=/Bridge%2bDefense%26.src=ph%26.view=t

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/frank_glackin/vwp?.dir=/Water&.src=ph&.dnm=Mvc-399x.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/frank_glackin/lst%3f%26.dir=/Water%26.src=ph%26.view=t


/Frank #:-)
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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 09:54 PM UTC
Tuga,
You're becoming a real linkmeister...
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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 10:02 PM UTC
That is excellent water sarge! :-)

Tread.
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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 10:15 PM UTC
Frank,
That water looks so real you'd fool me to take the dive if I were on that bridge.
crismag
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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2002 - 09:10 AM UTC
wow that was a great work in simulating water im really inspired to do my own thanks to your help. i was just wondering.. when you used the clear gloss, did you pour it in to the desired depth? could you teach me how...pleeeease :-)
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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2002 - 06:58 PM UTC
Never, never pour the varnish. Paint it on, even paint it on heavy. If you pour it on, it will run, never dry and seep into areas you dont want it. It took around 2 weeks to paint each layer, one almost every day. It had dried nicely and was quick and easy to do. And there is no real depth here either. Max 5mm

For a flat area with no real ripples, this method is good. If you paint it on a bit heavy it will even itself out. When the skin starts to harden on the top you can run your finger over the skin and "Pull" it a little. This makes nice little ripples. This would be perfect for making a puddle, like envar has used in his schwimmwagen dio.

For rougher water, you might have to look into resin type methods. My base for this was quick drying moulding plaster. I see no reason why it wouldnt work to make "waves" the same way. I havent tried that though.

This was a first time attempt at making water and something i was very please about. the thing is, it is a very forgiving method as you put on so many layers, you can hide little blemmishes or mistakes. Give it a go.
crismag
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Posted: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 09:20 AM UTC
thank you so much sarge! (salute) youve been most helpful, ill be trying that can i ask you another question? if i want to make a much deeper water, say, about an inch deep, what do you recommend i should use? it seems that clear casting plaster ( did i say it right?) is the best, right?
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Posted: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 10:04 AM UTC
To be quite honest it would be unfair of me to recommend anything for deep water. I have never tried it. This is my one and only effort at water making. I guess you could fill up to whatever level with the plaster and paint the surface as I have described earlier. Depends on what you want to show in the water.
Maybe if you try in the ship area the guys there might have better ideas for water.
Sorry I cant be of more help
crismag
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Posted: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 10:36 AM UTC
thats ok sarge, anyway, Ive learned enough from you and i cant wait to try it myself ill be posting my work here when its done so you guys could see it and your comments and critisizm will be much appreciated. Sarge! (salute) thanks
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